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The first question you have to ask is "how many planes was Midwest operating at the on the day of purchase." That is how many planes they brought to the table. Regardless of what happend after that, that is the set point for integrations, regardless of what happened with them later. In addition, what is the status of the crews at date of purchase (set point). Just like the furlough issue or who was a CA vs FO. It is where they were on the day of purchase". If they were still active pilots (not furloughed) or active Captains (not displaced to FO seat) they integrate at the point that the date of sale occured. Just like the future E190 at Republic. There were none on property at the time of the sale, thus they do not count.

Anything less is too ambigous to work with. At some point you have to put a steak in the ground and say "here is the point we start with" regardless of what the trends in jobs/upgades/downgrades/displacements/active/furloughs.

Just my opinion.......

FNG

Agree but as more info is coming out there is more evidence that the Rev. has behind the dismanatling of Midwest since approx. June 2008. He has also just recently said he wants to return Midwest to look like the airline of June 2008 ASAP. This to me looks like a management move to affect the SLI to decrease their costs. If we as pilots can't see this and counter their moves it will set a standard for future mergers. This reeks of management sticky their fingers in a process that is by law to be determined by the unions.
 
They wanted relative seniority with swa wouldn't that be appropriate here also? Let's face it any SLI is all about me. How can I gain from this even on your back. Sad but true state of human nature.
 
They wanted relative seniority with swa wouldn't that be appropriate here also? Let's face it any SLI is all about me. How can I gain from this even on your back. Sad but true state of human nature.

In the SWA/Frontier SLI, they were both narrow body aircraft and both major airlines. However, in the Republic/Frontier SLI, there are a lot of other and complicating factors (aircraft types, career expectations, upgrade times/expectations, pay scales, etc.) Like I have posted before DAL/NWA and AWA/USAir nicoli SLIs are viable models to follow.

Agreed, the number one concern is "Its all about me" for each pilot/pilot group. The arbitrator/mediator will have fun with this one......

Just my opinion.......

FNG
 
I don't even care anymore... The F9 pilots need a bit more humbling and beating anyway, going backwards isn't bad enough. We can start by possibly throwing bags & marshaling for a while at min wage at different out-stations all over America. Once we hit 10,000 hours of bag throwing and a$$ kissing we can apply as pilots. Wow, then possibly have a shot at a $35K/yr flying job... I'm so excited, take my Airbus seat; you deserve it.
 
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At some point you have to put a steak in the ground and say

I would recommend a STAKE...
 

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