Frontier guys: Could have had a SWA seniority number tonight

[Minimaniac]

It's ironic that so many people on these boards made claims that RAH would pursue a staple where F9 pilots would be below RAH pilots, and RAH pilots were bashed to no end for this staple that we never requested. Now, SWA actually has said that a staple is the only thing F9 pilots deserve, and you praise SWA pilots for their graciousness?

What the heck is wrong with you people. A staple is never fair, and F9 pilots are right to expect something more. I think SWA's true colors are coming through. There is no respect for their fellow pilots, and an absolutely unchecked sense of entitlement over there. The day SW pilots agree to give up seniority to someone from another company is the day you actually become better men and women than the rest of us.

 

[flint4xx]

The day SW pilots agree to give up seniority to someone from another company is the day you actually become better men and women than the rest of us.

Lay off the crack pipe and accept the real world. It does't matter what company or union or uniform is involved. The stance taken by any side is based on the situation. Like it or not, Gary Kelly and SWAPA hold the reigns.

 

[SWA2000]

It's ironic that so many people on these boards made claims that RAH would pursue a staple where F9 pilots would be below RAH pilots, and RAH pilots were bashed to no end for this staple that we never requested. Now, SWA actually has said that a staple is the only thing F9 pilots deserve, and you praise SWA pilots for their graciousness?

What the heck is wrong with you people. A staple is never fair, and F9 pilots are right to expect something more. I think SWA's true colors are coming through. There is no respect for their fellow pilots, and an absolutely unchecked sense of entitlement over there. The day SW pilots agree to give up seniority to someone from another company is the day you actually become better men and women than the rest of us.

So base protections and more importantly pay protections with most of there pilots getting a substantial raise is not a gain? Let's remember we are talking about an airline operating in bankruptcy. Let's face it SWA wants DEN, they have the bank roll to win in DEN. F9 does not. SWA could take the money they were going to spend on this deal and just reduce the fares untill F9 has to throw in the towel.

It is going to be interesting how this is going to play out. Gary Kelly still has been mum about the whole deal.

 

[Quiet Flight]

Frow www.swapa.org in the members only section. Posted a little while ago. Yes, it's for real.

SWAPA and Lynx in talks
SWAPA pilots,


In light of the very dynamic situations of the last day or two, SWAPA has started to open exploratory talks with the Lynx pilots. Lynx is equally part of the transaction and we feel that it is important to include them in the process. They have reached out to us, and SWAPA feels it important to explore all avenues. The Lynx pilots seem genuinely excited about the opportunity to be a part of the Southwest Family. We look forward to our future discussion.

Your M&A Committee

 

[roughneck]

Lynx guys will have a chance to sign a Swapa card soon.

 

[cale42]

Lynx guys will have a chance to sign a Swapa card soon.

That would be interesting.. I'd sign..

 

[HighSpeed]

Pay protection of non-consessionary rates for all F9 pilots - and SWA is being unfair...?

 

[bluestreaking]

It's ironic that so many people on these boards made claims that RAH would pursue a staple where F9 pilots would be below RAH pilots, and RAH pilots were bashed to no end for this staple that we never requested. Now, SWA actually has said that a staple is the only thing F9 pilots deserve, and you praise SWA pilots for their graciousness?

What the heck is wrong with you people. A staple is never fair, and F9 pilots are right to expect something more. I think SWA's true colors are coming through. There is no respect for their fellow pilots, and an absolutely unchecked sense of entitlement over there. The day SW pilots agree to give up seniority to someone from another company is the day you actually become better men and women than the rest of us.

I'm sure a $50,000 pay raise for FO's and pay protection for Captains will help ease there pain a little. I know, I know, it's sooooo unfair!

 

[cale42]

It's ironic that so many people on these boards made claims that RAH would pursue a staple where F9 pilots would be below RAH pilots, and RAH pilots were bashed to no end for this staple that we never requested. Now, SWA actually has said that a staple is the only thing F9 pilots deserve, and you praise SWA pilots for their graciousness?

What the heck is wrong with you people. A staple is never fair, and F9 pilots are right to expect something more. I think SWA's true colors are coming through. There is no respect for their fellow pilots, and an absolutely unchecked sense of entitlement over there. The day SW pilots agree to give up seniority to someone from another company is the day you actually become better men and women than the rest of us.

Not understanding the difference between a staple at SWA and a staple at RAH are why I'm scared to death of RAH winning the bid.

 

[filejw]

Having been through this like 4 times I would advise their F9 guys not to roll over. SWA wants F9 for a reason, don't give up your legal rights...

 

[SWA/FO]

Lynxx get your guys together and work with SWAPA....!

 

[Minimaniac]

I'm sure a $50,000 pay raise for FO's and pay protection for Captains will help ease there pain a little. I know, I know, it's sooooo unfair!

That pay protection and raise mean nothing when you are on furlough.

 

[dude100]

I'm Lynx and am dissapointed this isn't going through smoothly. I hope people realize though that no two labor groups have ever integrated smoothly in 48 hours. If Repulic does end up with F9 and L4 they may sell off Lynx anyhow and begin taking Frontier routes flying the EMB's. Just my take...look what happened at Midwest!

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS173972+21-May-2009+BW20090521

 

[Vegaspilot99]

That would be interesting.. I'd sign..

Me too...in a heartbeat.

 

[Minimaniac]

Not understanding the difference between a staple at SWA and a staple at RAH are why I'm scared to death of RAH winning the bid.

The only difference that is to be understood is that the IBT has not asked for a staple, and SWAPA has.