Comair costs more? Oh really?

[ASApuppy]

Mesa pilots get credit for the Hawaii stunt. The press just loved that one.

 

[xjhawk]

for those of you who bash other regionals-kiss off. Like you were sellected at your high and mighty regional because of your awesome qualifications and resume'. Most of us took the first regional job we were offered-I for one how Pinnacle gets a great contract and more flying and I work for Mesaba. I must say this, our system is broke and ALPA needs to do something about it. I do not know what, we are too divided to come together and figure somehting out. But one thing is for sure, is that if all Delta carriers had the same pay and work rules, then delta would not be able to play us off against one another. that might be a start. But throw skywest in there.....they fly for everyone it seems...maybe let them pay their pilots a little more as they do have good pay, I wouuld hate to make them get lower pay! good luck all.

 

[WayBack]

for those of you who bash other regionals-kiss off. Like you were sellected at your high and mighty regional because of your awesome qualifications and resume'. Most of us took the first regional job we were offered-I for one how Pinnacle gets a great contract and more flying and I work for Mesaba. I must say this, our system is broke and ALPA needs to do something about it. I do not know what, we are too divided to come together and figure somehting out. But one thing is for sure, is that if all Delta carriers had the same pay and work rules, then delta would not be able to play us off against one another. that might be a start. But throw skywest in there.....they fly for everyone it seems...maybe let them pay their pilots a little more as they do have good pay, I wouuld hate to make them get lower pay! good luck all.

But that would make sense, and ALPA wouldn't know how to do that.

 

[Speedtape]

But that would make sense, and ALPA wouldn't know how to do that.

It's called the Race To The Bottom! It's a stupid idea! How low would you go? You may need knee pads!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

for those of you who bash other regionals-kiss off. Like you were sellected at your high and mighty regional because of your awesome qualifications and resume'. Most of us took the first regional job we were offered-I for one how Pinnacle gets a great contract and more flying and I work for Mesaba. I must say this, our system is broke and ALPA needs to do something about it. I do not know what, we are too divided to come together and figure somehting out. But one thing is for sure, is that if all Delta carriers had the same pay and work rules, then delta would not be able to play us off against one another. that might be a start. But throw skywest in there.....they fly for everyone it seems...maybe let them pay their pilots a little more as they do have good pay, I wouuld hate to make them get lower pay! good luck all.

Exactly. All the regionals are entry level airline positions that have been boosted unintentially (through ignorance of large unions and smart planning and luck by mgmt) into more career type positions without the workrules, lifestyle, or safety culture of a career type carrier.

It's rare for someone to have been super selective between the jet regionals with a few exceptions (gojet... etc). I applied to and pursued ASA and Pinnacle... Pinnacle called me first.

 

[Speedtape]

Exactly. All the regionals are entry level airline positions that have been boosted unintentially (through ignorance of large unions and smart planning and luck by mgmt) into more career type positions without the workrules, lifestyle, or safety culture of a career type carrier.

It's rare for someone to have been super selective between the jet regionals with a few exceptions (gojet... etc). I applied to and pursued ASA and Pinnacle... Pinnacle called me first.

Your first paragraph makes no sense--at least from my experience and perspective.

The ASA PWA is probably better regarding work rules than a few of the legends. ASA would have been a more enjoyable place to work.

 

[JoeMerchant]

It's called the Race To The Bottom! It's a stupid idea! How low would you go? You may need knee pads!

It may be a "stupid idea", but why are some "hardliners" such as WF and yourself acknowledging that ASA may need to lower our costs to compete? The portfolio concept and competition with one another for work is stupid from a union solidarity standpoint....but is what it is at this point...The battle to "fix" that "stupid idea", largely was a failure....