SWAPA TA failure just cost me $1,200 per month

[shearedshaft]

I am a senior FO at SWA and my pay rate was scheduled to go from $108 to $121 after the TA (from about $120/hour to $135/hr).

I fly 120 trips per month, so the TA failure cost me $1,200 per month. Every month.

Would I write a check for $1,200 per month to keep ELITT the same? Nope. How about to let lance captains continue to take senior FO lines and give them to junior FOs? Nope.

This is the interesting part: I've asked every FO I've come in contact with in the last week what they thought their gross pay raise was going to be if the TA passed. Not one had an answer.

Luckily, SWA just announced 9% lower revenues for last month, so I'm sure our pay raises will be even better (not) when we go back to the table.

You guys don't know a good thing when it's looking you in the eye.

 

[radarlove]

Now that's funny right there. Your guys gave up raises equal to a commuter guy's whole salary. And for what?

 

[Yuppyguppy]

Such b.s.

 

[Slug]

I fly 120 trips per month

Maybe you should get a life and not work so much.

 

[murano]

Wow, you sound like a UAL pilot circa 2000: "Give me my raises... I don't care about the outsourcing Section 1 allows." Your biggest pay raise will come when SWA grows its own fleet (instead of Volaris & WestJet) and you upgrade to Captain. Then you'll get your lousy $1200 a month and then some.

 

[emb120driver]

Perfect example of someone who absolutely does not see the big picture.

 

[turbodriver]

I am a senior FO at SWA and my pay rate was scheduled to go from $108 to $121 after the TA (from about $120/hour to $135/hr).

I fly 120 trips per month, so the TA failure cost me $1,200 per month. Every month.

Would I write a check for $1,200 per month to keep ELITT the same? Nope. How about to let lance captains continue to take senior FO lines and give them to junior FOs? Nope.

This is the interesting part: I've asked every FO I've come in contact with in the last week what they thought their gross pay raise was going to be if the TA passed. Not one had an answer.

Luckily, SWA just announced 9% lower revenues for last month, so I'm sure our pay raises will be even better (not) when we go back to the table.

You guys don't know a good thing when it's looking you in the eye.

The passage of the Alaska TA will keep me on the street for a couple more years........

Compare that with your precious $1200.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Scope? You don't need that. Management will take care of you. They think of you first!

Keep that head in the sand- at least 51% of your homies had sense enough to keep SWA Connection from starting.

Ask the legacy guys around here how little that 1200 dollars a month would look compared to the cuts they've taken.

 

[Bobo135R]

Dude....get real... it's not all about you.... -Bobo (a SWA junior FO)

 

[SevenThreeSeven]

As a mid-level seniority captain I gladly turned down over $1200 a month at 100 trips for pay to protect us from outsourcing and losing our productivity.

You're welcome clueless.

PS. I'd be willing to bet you're retired military and this is your first airline rodeo

 

[RedDogC130]

I would give up $1200 a month to keep ELITT the way it is. That is how I keep my flexibility. Hey maybe we will get 3% like every other group got...happy now. You like the new open time process without a test to see if it works? So as a senior FO are you not going to be a Lance when the time comes? Get your head out of the clouds. This is supposed to be what is good for the "group" not "you" There are things that we each give up to make it better....quit your crying you will get the COLA just have to wait a bit. They will not come back with less because they will surely get another NO vote with a bigger margin

 

[1031Guy]

Boo-hoo...$1,200 a month. You want something to b!tch about? Try Age 65. How much did that cost you???

 

[GuppyWN]

I am a senior FO at SWA and my pay rate was scheduled to go from $108 to $121 after the TA (from about $120/hour to $135/hr).

I fly 120 trips per month, so the TA failure cost me $1,200 per month. Every month.

Would I write a check for $1,200 per month to keep ELITT the same? Nope. How about to let lance captains continue to take senior FO lines and give them to junior FOs? Nope.

This is the interesting part: I've asked every FO I've come in contact with in the last week what they thought their gross pay raise was going to be if the TA passed. Not one had an answer.

Luckily, SWA just announced 9% lower revenues for last month, so I'm sure our pay raises will be even better (not) when we go back to the table.

You guys don't know a good thing when it's looking you in the eye.

There is more to the contract that "your" raise. How about

• almost limitless near international codeshare
• no flying to hawaii or carribean for you
• no "one leg on SWA" codeshare
• unlimited distribution of other airlines tickets
• whacked lance program
• more restricted DTC
• much more restricted ELITT
• worse Reserve system
• no cancellation pay
• loss of mach adjustment
• unknown open time system
• worse raises than any other SWA workgroup
• worse retirement than the Flight Attendants

It's not all about you bro. How about trying to pull the rope in the same direction.

Gup

 

[GuppyWN]

double post

 

[Eagle757shark]

Scope? You don't need that. Management will take care of you. They think of you first!

Keep that head in the sand- at least 51% of your homies had sense enough to keep SWA Connection from starting.

Ask the legacy guys around here how little that 1200 dollars a month would look compared to the cuts they've taken.

Protect your SCOPE guys. It is the only way to protect your future income and jobs.