"Delta CEO Hails New Pact, REstates Goal of zero (Frontline) Layoffs"

[General Lee]

GL and flap operator... we no longer have a cargo operation at all on our seniority list. They are simply changing the scope of operations.

Delta Cargo Connection by Air France and Martinair.

I understand what you mean, but they are NOT covering flying that we had. They are starting something new. If they covered our ANC flying and used our NRT slots, that would be different. I would love to have some of our own widebodies on the Trans Atlantic stuff, but we ONLY have old 742s. Air France Cargo, Aerologic, and maybe Emirates Cargo are the only three that have new 777 Freighters, and those are coming off the line new from Boeing. If we had some of those, I bet we could do it. Would I like us to share in this? HECK YEAH. Can you find me some planes please?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Yep, why aren't they replacing the freighters? That would be like them saying "sorry guys, we don't have a replacement for the 767, so all the 767s will be parked and Air France is going to fly it."


I matters not where the planes fly.... they are being parked and their mission is being outsourced. Please tell me you can see this.

 

[General Lee]

Yep, why aren't they replacing the freighters? That would be like them saying "sorry guys, we don't have a replacement for the 767, so all the 767s will be parked and Air France is going to fly it."


I matters not where the planes fly.... they are being parked and their mission is being outsourced. Please tell me you can see this.

Hey, even the arbitrators knew the 742s were on the way out. They stated that in the SLI explanation. We could replace them with ERs if we got a cargo door conversion, but that would take some time to do. Again, we are behind the curveball when it comes to airplane orders. I have heard we could do the cargo mod on our 744s, and they could be replaced with 777-300ERs. But, again, it will take time to do that.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

I understand what you mean, but they are NOT covering flying that we had. They are starting something new. If they covered our ANC flying and used our NRT slots, that would be different. I would love to have some of our own widebodies on the Trans Atlantic stuff, but we ONLY have old 742s. Air France Cargo, Aerologic, and maybe Emirates Cargo are the only three that have new 777 Freighters, and those are coming off the line new from Boeing. If we had some of those, I bet we could do it. Would I like us to share in this? HECK YEAH. Can you find me some planes please?


Bye Bye--General Lee

Come up with whatever fool justifications you wish, Gen.... These sure are some big-ass RJs you are outsourcing.

-Keep right on whistling by the graveyard.... Just let them keep parking DAL airplanes whilst the Frenchies keep right on flying ones your sorry butt should be in!

-Perhaps you should check out some of the other "scary" threads dealing with the fact that NWA bought control of Midwest and outsourced all their flying to Republic. Obviously, this is a blatant test of scope-but you are too stupid to recognize what RA is trying to slide into somewhere uncomfortable. Just keep marching right on along, like a good little pawn...

-P.S.- You never addressed Peaknuckle's question: Why are they not flying this with 767 freighters? There really ARE 767 freighters out there-hell DAL is parking 767s all the time!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

We butt heads alot crj567, but I'm with you 100% on this one. Scope is the ultimate battle we have to fight in this industry now.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

It's my goal to not crash

That was the funniest thing on FI I've seen.....

 

[General Lee]

Come up with whatever fool justifications you wish, Gen.... These sure are some big-ass RJs you are outsourcing.

-Keep right on whistling by the graveyard.... Just let them keep parking DAL airplanes whilst the Frenchies keep right on flying ones your sorry butt should be in!

-Perhaps you should check out some of the other "scary" threads dealing with the fact that NWA bought control of Midwest and outsourced all their flying to Republic. Obviously, this is a blatant test of scope-but you are too stupid to recognize what RA is trying to slide into somewhere uncomfortable. Just keep marching right on along, like a good little pawn...

-P.S.- You never addressed Peaknuckle's question: Why are they not flying this with 767 freighters? There really ARE 767 freighters out there-hell DAL is parking 767s all the time!

Well, the NWA Cargo certificate (part of the NWA certificate) does not have 767s listed, so we would have to get that done. We would also have to get a supplemental type certificate to fit a cargo door on the 767s. It was talked about for awhile actually, but then oil went to $140 a barrel. If you look at UPS and FedEx, they are both parking planes (FedEx---10 A310s, and some DC10s, UPS--DC8s and 742s) so worldwide freight is not what it used to be. The AF/KLM/Martinair planes are a lot newer than our planes (more fuel efficient), and are already flying the North Atlantic as we type. So, as long as they do not fly the routes our planes flew or use our slots at NRT, then I don't see what the fuss is. It would be nice to get some newer cargo planes and use them on joint North Atlantic routes, but it would take awhile. Maybe it will happen. Also, maybe we will park more RJs---maybe all of the 50 seaters. That would help this industry too.


Bye Bye--General Lee