Comair....

[DX Rick]

In the message last night, Bendo mentioned that they will have to "adjust staffing" in the fall.
Guys in recurrent are saying SB said upwards of 200 guys getting furloughed in the fall.
That will bring Comair down to about 900 pilots. Thats over 500 guys on the street.

How much flying is DAL cutting back at Mesa, ASA and CHQ?

 

[doh]

I think Delta has nothing but harm planned for Comair. I think they will never forgive the strike. They truly are the Evil Empire.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Sad part is I know a few people that take that as good news.

 

[DX Rick]

I think Delta has nothing but harm planned for Comair. I think they will never forgive the strike. They truly are the Evil Empire.

I keep hearing that, but is there anyone in DAL management who was around during the OH strike?
I'd thought they rotated so many people in and out of management everyone might be gone.
That's unless the DAL pilots are pushing management for this

 

[DX Rick]

Sad part is I know a few people that take that as good news.

From what I have heard from some DAL guys, he will be furloughed soon himself.
They were saying that DAL might be furloughing up to 1,500 guys.

 

[doh]

My alternate theory is that Delta promised X amount of flying to Skywest/ASA toentice Skywest to purchase ASA. Chataqua also has a contract for X amount. Since they wrote the value of Comair down to zero in bankruptcy, they are taking the flying from you. None of this changes the fact that Delta is the Evil Empire.

 

[imacdog]

Geez.........when I was hired there in mid 2005, my seniority number was over twice the total number of pilots Comair could have after this possible round of furloughs.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

They were saying that DAL might be furloughing up to 1,500 guys.

The only people saying that are ASA and Comair guys.

 

[WWEfan]

From what I have heard from some DAL guys, he will be furloughed soon himself.
They were saying that DAL might be furloughing up to 1,500 guys.

That's not accurate. I'm sure there will be some girls in that 1,500 too.

 

[DX Rick]

The only people saying that are ASA and Comair guys.

Or the Delta guy I sat next to while commuting home.

 

[DX Rick]

That's not accurate. I'm sure there will be some girls in that 1,500 too.

New rules, girls are exempt of all furloughing.

 

[WWEfan]

New rules, girls are exempt of all furloughing.

Only if they're cute....

 

[crj567]

I keep hearing that, but is there anyone in DAL management who was around during the OH strike?
I'd thought they rotated so many people in and out of management everyone might be gone.
That's unless the DAL pilots are pushing management for this

I think the point is that ALL airline management at EVERY major airline would view crushing Comair as a victory against labor.

I doubt it really matters who was in charge at the time, the point is that all airline management would view Comair's demise as an accomplishment-since it was about the only strike by any regional actually damaged a mainline carrier.

-I would think the NWA mgmt. now running DAL would obviously love to finish off Comair as a caution to any other regional which would be bold enough to consider a strike in the future.

-Sad state of affairs.

 

[DX Rick]

-I would think the NWA mgmt. now running DAL would obviously love to finish off Comair as a caution to any other regional which would be bold enough to consider a strike in the future.

-Sad state of affairs.

They better hurry and find a reason to strike soon. There aren't going to be any pilots left at the rate they're furloughing.

 

[Broke in CVG]

The truth is neither Bendo or SB know what the staffing requirements are going to be for the fall yet. They are speculating. I don't think DL even has their plans figured out yet. And when they do, they are more than likely subject to revision at least 12 times as the environment changes going forward.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Or the Delta guy I sat next to while commuting home.

Well that's the guy you should trust. He's the man in the know.

 

[LazyLightnin']

Only if they're cute....

Only if they have no 121 pic time. Oh wait, that's nearly all of them.

 

[DX Rick]

Well that's the guy you should trust. He's the man in the know.

Well, he wasn't wearing his double breasted jacket. Come to think of it he wasn't even wearing his hat.
Must have been an impostor!
No wait, I heard him call a weather briefer and ask for a wind check. Definitely a Delta pilot!

 

[crj567]

Well, he wasn't wearing his double breasted jacket. Come to think of it he wasn't even wearing his hat.
Must have been an impostor!
No wait, I heard him call a weather briefer and ask for a wind check. Definitely a Delta pilot!

Did he ask you to please check and see how long "final" was??? Just for safety's sake?

-The true litmus test is to ask the guy about his family-if he is past age 45 he will start bitching about his (at least 3rd) ex-wife and how he spent tons of bucks on lawyhers good enough to keep her out of his retirement.....

 

[fugghedabowdit]

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[Raoul Duke]

It is because Comair (as a wholly owned carrier) does not have a block hour min in thier contracts. Freedom, Skyw and Republic all have block hour mins. If DL goes below they have to pay a stiff penalty. As a result Comair takes it in the chin.

 

[on autopilot]

you mean the buttocks

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Well, he wasn't wearing his double breasted jacket. Come to think of it he wasn't even wearing his hat.
Must have been an impostor!
No wait, I heard him call a weather briefer and ask for a wind check. Definitely a Delta pilot!

You work for Comair and you're making fun of someone else wearing a double breasted jacket? Pot..meet kettle.

Regardless, the only people that ever post about DL furloughs "going" to happen are RJ captains or people that see themselves getting stuck at a regional for whatever reason.

Our winter schedule (the lowest hours of the year) is being finished currently, and summer 2010 is being worked on... From the information that is solid (not pure speculation like your DL buddy), furloughs are in no way in the pipeline.

It sucks to see all the guys on the street at Comair, but the regionals were built up too large over the past 10 years. This adjustment was going to happen, and age 65 isn't helping one bit. This is another reason why we were (still are) going for the movement to begin to bring 76 seat flying back mainline- upward movement.


FYI- the wind checks come out of our Vref bugging policy when we plan on flying an approach with the autothrottles off (99% of the time). It is based off of headwind component and gusts. You'll hear it more on gusty/higher wind days as it necessitates having an updated wind reading- not just from the atis.

 

[DX Rick]

You work for Comair and you're making fun of someone else wearing a double breasted jacket? Pot..meet kettle.

Regardless, the only people that ever post about DL furloughs "going" to happen are RJ captains or people that see themselves getting stuck at a regional for whatever reason.

Our winter schedule (the lowest hours of the year) is being finished currently, and summer 2010 is being worked on... From the information that is solid (not pure speculation like your DL buddy), furloughs are in no way in the pipeline.

It sucks to see all the guys on the street at Comair, but the regionals were built up too large over the past 10 years. This adjustment was going to happen, and age 65 isn't helping one bit. This is another reason why we were (still are) going for the movement to begin to bring 76 seat flying back mainline- upward movement.


FYI- the wind checks come out of our Vref bugging policy when we plan on flying an approach with the autothrottles off (99% of the time). It is based off of headwind component and gusts. You'll hear it more on gusty/higher wind days as it necessitates having an updated wind reading- not just from the atis.

Golly Gee! Thanks for the lesson, Skipper!

 

[makersmarc]

FYI- the wind checks come out of our Vref bugging policy when we plan on flying an approach with the autothrottles off (99% of the time). It is based off of headwind component and gusts. You'll hear it more on gusty/higher wind days as it necessitates having an updated wind reading- not just from the atis.

Ya know, I knew there had to be an explaination. Thanks.

 

[crj567]

You work for Comair and you're making fun of someone else wearing a double breasted jacket? Pot..meet kettle.

Regardless, the only people that ever post about DL furloughs "going" to happen are RJ captains or people that see themselves getting stuck at a regional for whatever reason.

Our winter schedule (the lowest hours of the year) is being finished currently, and summer 2010 is being worked on... From the information that is solid (not pure speculation like your DL buddy), furloughs are in no way in the pipeline.

It sucks to see all the guys on the street at Comair, but the regionals were built up too large over the past 10 years. This adjustment was going to happen, and age 65 isn't helping one bit. This is another reason why we were (still are) going for the movement to begin to bring 76 seat flying back mainline- upward movement.


FYI- the wind checks come out of our Vref bugging policy when we plan on flying an approach with the autothrottles off (99% of the time). It is based off of headwind component and gusts. You'll hear it more on gusty/higher wind days as it necessitates having an updated wind reading- not just from the atis.

Wow-I thought it came from the great game of "guess what's in my pocket" you had going on....

-Moron.

 

[LazyLightnin']

two weeks ago-

Delta: "wind check"

Tower: "wind calm"

 

[lineflyer1]

How many DAL pilots will they not need with a 10% reduction in international flying this fall?

And they haven't announced how much domestic capacity DAL is going to trim this fall.

 

[crj567]

It doesn't look good anywhere...

The world economy (not to mention the U.S.) is continuing to crater with no significant hope of near-term recovery.

DAL and every other major will furlough if things don't really snap back to normal real soon (why do you think they are offering early-outs?). DAL will probably furlough more than many majors because of heavy INTL exposure to Europe and Africa. Anyone who doesn't think overseas travel is in total freefall is an idiot...

-As much as Peaknuckle woud love to have all the 76-seat flying he can handle, I wouldn't bet on it... Far too big of a gamepiece for mgmt. to just hand over... Many people tend to forget-mgmt. loves to play mainline against the regionals-economics also favor a good bit of outsourcing.

 

[samballs]

Well that's the guy you should trust. He's the man in the know.

What about the CVG DL FO rep who was on my JS and said by next summer DL pilots will be flying the Compass planes and many more will be at home.