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Suze Orman HATES Fractionals

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Don't spend more than you make, invest part of your income for retirement, have a cash set aside for 6 months living and plan to be unemployed sometime in your life.

Like someone once said, common sense is not so common anymore. Sound advice that should be intuitive to most people whom possess a sense of innate natural survival. Unfortunately, we're coaxed as a society into spending frivilously to camoflague oursleves from who we really are in an effort to present a misaligned representation of ourselves. In other words, we're driven to social deceit via the wonderful retail media vehicles (advertising in every aspect that includes those doltish fashion magazines as well).
 
I did not know she was giving advice to people who even think about chartering or fractional ownership. I have seen her show a couple times, not a fan, but her advice is basic pilot survival skills. Don't spend more than you make, invest part of your income for retirement, have a cash set aside for 6 months living and plan to be unemployed sometime in your life.

That's the thing about her show that annoys me. It's all common sense. If the average dumb consumer had any we wouldn't need people like her.
 
common sense in not common

That's the thing about her show that annoys me. It's all common sense. If the average dumb consumer had any we wouldn't need people like her.
There is a shortage of common sense, because it is so easy to ignore. Often the short term benefits of ignoring it out weigh the long term sacrifices needed to came the benefit. She plays to a women thing, of feelings as opposed to logical decision making. The other thing peole tend to ignore is "If it seems to good to be true, it is probalby not true. Things like "My house will increase in value at 25% per year for ever".
 
The article shows her flying in a chartered Beechjet and it lists a charter operator. There is a P180 among other aircraft in a picture in the article - sitting off to the side at PWK or MDW. Unless you have proof, I doubt it because she is so one-sided about her fractional views... She indicated that she flies roughly 100 hours per year for business and she flies Jet Blue and Virgin America for leisure.

I am just reporting what the article says...


it was actually profiled on her show on CNBC. she had "her favorite pilot" on the show and he proposed to his fiance.

he was in uniform and said he worked for avantair. she said she was an owner.

look up the history of the show maybe you can find it.

of course I'm talking logic to people on flight info, how dumb of me.
 
that's right

it was actually profiled on her show on CNBC. she had "her favorite pilot" on the show and he proposed to his fiance.

he was in uniform and said he worked for avantair. she said she was an owner.

look up the history of the show maybe you can find it.

of course I'm talking logic to people on flight info, how dumb of me.
Thats right this FI, we don't deal in reality.
 
it was actually profiled on her show on CNBC. she had "her favorite pilot" on the show and he proposed to his fiance.

he was in uniform and said he worked for avantair. she said she was an owner.

look up the history of the show maybe you can find it.

of course I'm talking logic to people on flight info, how dumb of me.

Well, if you are correct, then she either doesn't know what she is talking about (which is likely) because Avantair is, indeed, a fractional or she has no problem LYING to the public (also very likely). Who knows? She can't say she wouldn't buy a fractional share if her life depended on it and then buy a fractional share at Avantair - that makes ZERO sense. But hey, she is annoying and she probably doesn't understand what the F#@K she is talking about...
 
A real financial planner would spend hours completely pouring over your finances before he/she would suggest anything. She spouts trash after a 30 second screening. You get what you pay for.

When you get advice from anyone on anything, ask yourself how that person gets paid. It will affect the advice you get.

She works in show business. How does she get paid? Sensationalism sells! If she doesn't say or do something controversial, she might lose her spot on the best seller list. If she loses her spot, no more TV deal. If she loses her TV deal,...

It is all pathetically transparent.
 
She'll only charter the Beechjunk 400. Says she only likes this plane because she has control of the cabin temp in the back.

Now there is some sound decision making!!
 
She'll only charter the Beechjunk 400. Says she only likes this plane because she has control of the cabin temp in the back.

Now there is some sound decision making!!

I heard a rumor -- just a rumor -- that some of the fractionals are now flying planes with that feature. Some of them even fly the 400!


:rolleyes:
 
I have flown her a bunch on the Ultra. Nice woman, friendly and self sufficient(she doesn't come up and bother us while flying). 135 Charter. Who cares? She is a celebrity that gets paid to get ratings and sell product with her name and face on it. Nothing to see here, move along...
 

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