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i guess paying their pilots isnt an important subject....

sad that management can destroy a company like that and it not be illegal.....
 
Interesting that you'd even think of it being illegal. "Free" markets should dictate that stupid decisions and bad management should have bad results. Making it illegal to poorly manage a company would be problematic to say the least. Every stake holder (employee, owner, bond holder, etc.) should carefully consider their relationships in this life.

Responsibility is the name of the game.
 
I noticed the article.... I think it's a positive thing, sort of good news in my opinion.... but my buddy (on furlough from FLOPS) didn't think so, he doesn't seem to trust Ricci.... I forwarded him the link, he said "whatever"...oh well
 
Interesting that you'd even think of it being illegal. "Free" markets should dictate that stupid decisions and bad management should have bad results. Making it illegal to poorly manage a company would be problematic to say the least.

agreed.

Every stake holder (employee, owner, bond holder, etc.) should carefully consider their relationships in this life.

Responsibility is the name of the game.


are you inferring that it is the employees fault? that's what it sounds like.
 
Flight Options keeps pushing pilots. Ricci is still wheeling and dealing. What do the pilots have? No future, no stability, no money and NO CONTRACT.

Stand by for a Ricci/Dubinsky watered down contract that the beat down Flight Options pilot will accept after years of beatings and reprogramming.
 
Fedmagnet,

I have waited 3 years and if the contract does not meet my minimum requirements I will vote NO !!!!

I waited this long for a contract and I am prepared to send them back for another year to get what I feel is a fair contract. I will take everything into consideration when I do vote and make my decision.

Only those of us who are allowed to vote will make that decision, most of the weaker pilots have who have not paid up and would be willing to take anything will not be able to vote.

I just hope the company and union both understand that.
 
pilot groups shouldn't suffer

Interesting that you'd even think of it being illegal. "Free" markets should dictate that stupid decisions and bad management should have bad results. Making it illegal to poorly manage a company would be problematic to say the least. Every stake holder (employee, owner, bond holder, etc.) should carefully consider their relationships in this life.

Responsibility is the name of the game.

SF Flyer, not sure what your background is other then what your profile states, but spend some time outside the military playground. It's a different playground in the fractional side. Try the airline or corporate playgrounds and there is another set of ROE to deal with. There are bullies in every playground. You have them within the OSACOM playground too. (read dickheads = bullies)
Every opinion here has some value and will cause fine debate which I enjoy reading. All I am saying is ya can not supply negative comment from side of the industry unless you've worked within it. It's no different then someone talking sh*t about the military and they never served.
That's another topic unto its self.
I read the post as saying if other industry's can fire or have the CEOs held responsible then why not in aviation.
 
Maintenance Competition in Vegas

From AIN-
Mechanics Are Winners at Mx Skills Contest[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]At the Aviation Industry Expo held from March 10 to 12 in Las Vegas, 15 teams of maintenance technicians vied for top honors in the second annual maintenance skills competition hosted by the AMTSociety. Last year, nine teams competed, according to Ken MacTiernan, an American Airlines mechanic and a director of the AMTSociety. The 15 teams were split into four categories: commercial aviation, general aviation, schools and military. Air Force and Navy mechanics competed in the military category, but next year MacTiernan expects members of all five military branches to compete. There were 12 events, and each five-member team had 20 minutes to complete each event. Scores are based on the time taken, and penalties are added, so the team with the lowest combined score wins. Category winners this year were Continental Airlines, commercial; Aviation Institute of Maintenance Atlanta, school; Air Force (McGuire AFB), military; and Team Colorado from the Colorado Aeronautics Division, general aviation. “The goal is to promote today’s technicians,” said MacTiernan. “Our responsibilities are all the same: providing safe, airworthy aircraft.”[/FONT]

The Flight Options team had held first place by finishing each event in less than 1 minute until the other teams protested that "OPS CHECKED OK PER MM600-800-01" was not an acceptable repair. Maintenance mangers at Flight Options in KCGF were not available for comment. :laugh:

You get what you pay for!
 
pilot error:

I am not inferring anything. Without perfect information, I would be in a poor position to judge fault.

To answer your question, my opinion is that it is not the fault of the employees. It seems very likely that the blame falls on the management hired by the board and therefore the stockholders. I believe that management should be controlled by business forces, not the President of the United States or his minions. Short of violating current regulation (accounting, monopoly, etc.), I just don't believe that the government legal structures can effectively run business. If board members, stockholders, employee groups allow managers to run the company into the ground, then they hold some responsibility. Employees may only hold certain levers of power(strikes, negotiations, etc.), but they also have the freedom to walk and find something better for themselves.

Government simply can't make it illegal to run a business poorly!

John
 

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