The OTHER HERO & PILOT: Jeff Skiles, US Airways

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I concur. Dr. Phil was adamant that the FO was also very responsible for the successful outcome. You never know what may come out in the investigation. Maybe the river was the FO's idea. Maybe the FO decided to get the ditching switch on his own. Hell, maybe the FO was flying and the bossman was trying to get some motors going. Wait and see.

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[Abernathy]

Dr Phil lumped the 'other' pilot and the FAs in the same category.

Someone they interview needs to clearly state that there are TWO pilots on these airplanes, and both worked together, and we don't know who did what in this situation.

 

[othello]

Not to be Deby Downer, but any one thought that perhaps the (birds) took out the left engine and in a rush the crew shut down the wrong engine and did this to them selves?

History shows we tend to do these type of things to ourselves.

wonderful job ditching, I just hope it was not because of pilot error.

Every media/passangers account is that the Left engine made bad sounds and the next thing they know is they are being told to brace.

 

[F9 Buff]

Not to be Deby Downer, but any one thought that perhaps the (birds) took out the left engine and in a rush the crew shut down the wrong engine and did this to them selves?

History shows we tend to do these type of things to ourselves.

wonderful job ditching, I just hope it was not because of pilot error.

Every media/passangers account is that the Left engine made bad sounds and the next thing they know is they are being told to brace.

Isn't that what happened with a 737-400 in the UK a decade or two ago? I think it was BMI or something like that? They were brand new to the 400 and not used to it or something?

 

[DeucesWild]

Sources close to the investigation are saying that the FO was the flying pilot, the 61-year old captain shut down the fully functioning #2 engine after failure of the #1 engine, and the FO performed the successful ditching into the Hudson.


Just kidding.....seriously.....just flame.

Let's wait for the NTSB to do their job.

 

[skiandsurf]

What if the was FO was flying?

A true captain is a "manager". Its hard to manage and fly at the same time.

My guess is this happened all too fast to think and communicate (like the Souix City UAL DC10), that they did what they did without really thinking. Just natural reaction (experience).

I frequently ask my flying partners "if we lost both engines now, where would you go?". Amazing everyone heads to the airport. Lots of airports are in the middle of the city....there is no way out if you come up short. A runway is the preferred place to put it down, but dont get sucked into the belief its the only place to land.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Sources close to the investigation are saying that the FO was the flying pilot, the 61-year old captain shut down the fully functioning #2 engine after failure of the #1 engine, and the FO performed the successful ditching into the Hudson.


Just kidding.....seriously.....just flame.

Let's wait for the NTSB to do their job.

Actually per procedure, the F/O should be flying the airplane during an emergency.

 

[glasspilot1]

Depends on the company. At American it's up to the Capt who fly's during an emergency. If I was the CA in this scenario I would want to be the one setting it down on the water.

 

[shroomwell]

F_CK the media. Bunch of clueless clown. I am sure the CA will make clear that the crew efforts made for a successful outcome and that he is just a member of the crew, especially since he is a CRM guy.

 

[ATRCAPT]

There are 155 people on that plane that dont think pilots are over paid!!

Bingo! This is what people need to understand. They are paying for that kind of experience and professionalism. Doctors are paid what doctors are paid because they are experienced professionals. Pilots need to be treated the same way.

 

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Depends on the company. At American it's up to the Capt who fly's during an emergency. If I was the CA in this scenario I would want to be the one setting it down on the water.

Ever flown with an FO who was a better stick than you?

 

[AbOvo]

Yeah well I'd think the guy with functioning displays would make a better choice for the landing.

 

[C425Driver]

Great job by the entire crew.

How long will it take the TSA to restrict all migratory bird activity within 30 miles of New York and Washington DC?

 

[Jaffo]

Is everybody forgetting about the lap child? There was actually 156 peaple onboard that a/c.
151 pax 5 crew. or did the infant have his/her own seat?

 

[starchkr]

Functioning displays...true, they make good in IFR or at night, but on clear days they might not be a deciding factor to who flies during an emergency. As far as displays go, did these pilots still have the APU running after takeoff? If so, once both gens came offline with engine shutdown, the APU would have powered every display in the bird.

Flying and the controls...I think what it would really come down to would be what their ops specs tell them to do in emergencies, maybe the capt takes over every time, or maybe the "pilot flying" continues flying until control transfer on roll out.

EXCELLENT job though, for both of them. I would bet that without both of them up there it wouldn't have turned out the same way. A lot of things to do to get that bird into that position from that altitude in that short amount of time and then prepare it for ditching as well. Someone mentioned the ditching push button...dang you gotta love that button in a situation like this...one button does it all without having to go through and close things separately.

I do love sitting and listening to those news crews though. Makes me wonder how many times what they report every day is all a bunch of malarky and made up stuff.