"New" Delta DC-9-50 in MSP

[ACL65PILOT]

You will be standard. It will be along the lines of recommend procedures and techniques from the manufacturers.

 

[FBN0223]

I do like the NW philosophy for abnormal/emergency procedures. Keep it simple.

"Fly the Aircraft, SIR."
(Silence the warning,Identify the Problem, Read the checklist)
"Do Not Hurry."

Hope DL keeps some of our procedures and puts together the best of both.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Agreed, FBN.


123: Our procedures are absolutely conformed to the Boeing books for legal reasons. This is the same reason the landing gear response was recently changed to "DOWN" instead of "DOWN, 3 GREEN." Reason? "To conform to the Boeing checklist."

I personally would do things different...but my name isn't on the registration certificate of the airplane.

 

[123]

Well, it is sounding better. Rumor that I keep hearing is that there is no standardization and that you basically can get everything done however you want (i.e. bigger rope to hang myself with). No flows and no standard procedures for flying different profiles, bottom line get the required checklist items however you want and you are good to go.... those are just the rumors that I consistently am hearing.

I will say that NWA has done a good job of making all the fleets as standard as possible. Switching from one a/c type to another, most of the calls are the same.

I am sure this is just one example of where rumor control is needed. thanks for you help

 

[CFI2766]

[QUOTE=CFI2766;1731349]Are you starting to get it now? Mainline is the way to go. Shiny Jet Syndrome is dying. Hopefully one day ALL of us will understand that a job with the mainline is the only way to go. (even if you don't fly pretty new airplanes)

Cool. I'd like a job with Delta. Are you guys hiring?

Thanks![/quote]



As soon as we park more rj's. Do you have your degree? You're gonna need it (degrees by mail not accepted).[/quote]



Sarcasm aside, is this really what you think? That I'm at a regional because I don't have a degree? Does it make it easier on you to feel this way?

I've a college degree, (NOT in aeronautical science, btw) I'm a military vet, I'm 'paying my dues' and putting up with cr@p in search of the golden 1000 hours PIC so that someday I can be looked down upon by those like yourself slightly less, and, I'm the statistical mean, average, regional airline pilot.

Come on man, lighten up a little.

In the long run, I want to fly an airplane that gives me the best chance of taking care of my family. I think that the best way for that to happen would be for there to be fewer RJs; the RJs that are left should be flown by mainline, with mainline pilots up front. Are we really that different?

 

[Murphy]

Saw a DC-9 with Delta colors in Detroit yesterday.

 

[Mikes Apartment]

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[jetflier]

I just flew 9867(N776NC) from ORD-MSP. Paint job looks good, not enough red on the tail. I wouldn't have known it was our airplane with the new paint except when we entered the fornt door, we were hit with that famous smell, only the DC9 has! Kinda' like sour milk and stale cigarettes. Ahhhh....Still feels like home

 

[Diesel-9]

Long live the -9's!! Lots of awards to DC-9 CA/FO in yesterdays April APA. Empty the sandbox.

 

[MJ42]

[/QUOTE]Sarcasm aside, is this really what you think? That I'm at a regional because I don't have a degree? Does it make it easier on you to feel this way?

I've a college degree, (NOT in aeronautical science, btw) I'm a military vet, I'm 'paying my dues' and putting up with cr@p in search of the golden 1000 hours PIC so that someday I can be looked down upon by those like yourself slightly less, and, I'm the statistical mean, average, regional airline pilot.

Come on man, lighten up a little.

In the long run, I want to fly an airplane that gives me the best chance of taking care of my family. I think that the best way for that to happen would be for there to be fewer RJs; the RJs that are left should be flown by mainline, with mainline pilots up front. Are we really that different?[/QUOTE]

Ok, you got me. I probably misinterpreted your response to the shiny jet syndrome post as being sarcastic. But, if you read anything about the new DAL on FI (not saying that FI is an accurate source, but you asked about hiring) you'd certainly know we are not hiring. In fact, we will be lucky not to furlough(I don't think we will). That's why I thought you were being sarcastic. I don't think anyone on FI knows if or when hiring will resume, as indicated numerous times in many threads.

I understand you want to advance your career. I also know there are a lot of qualified regional pilots with degrees(you included), but I've also seen the decrease in quality and education level of pilots hired at the regional level in the past 2 years, it's scary. I apologize for lumping you into that category.

 

[123]

Long live the -9's!! Lots of awards to DC-9 CA/FO in yesterdays April APA. Empty the sandbox.

Agreed. Also interesting to note that they are looking for both CA and FO -9 instructors. Must be gearing up for a bunch of -9 training. Just my luck, the month after I get off the -9 they are looking for IP's. Oh, well.....

 

[buxflyr]

when did they start making dc-9's again?

nice.

 

[CopilotDoug]

when did they start making dc-9's again?

This year....

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/attachments/month_0712/01ARJ21_7IfwXxHMMdhN.jpg

 

[nwaredtail]

Long live the -9's!! Lots of awards to DC-9 CA/FO in yesterdays April APA. Empty the sandbox.

Looking for instructors also. Maybe those 30 desert planes are coming after all. It would be nice to get them here before SOC.

 

[CALnTX]

You will be standard. It will be along the lines of recommend procedures and techniques from the manufacturers.

Who doesnt do it that way?

 

[SpauldingSmails]

... that famous smell, only the DC9 has! Kinda' like sour milk and stale cigarettes. Ahhhh....Still feels like home

The DC-9 scent is sort of like art, everyone interprets it in a different way.

To me it was always kerosene, sweat, coca-cola and farts... which is pretty much everything that gets left behind.

 

[dispatchguy]

Who doesnt do it that way?

Ya ever read the horrible English in the Airbus manuals?

Someone just learning English would produce a better manual - even if it was nothing but "See light - push button".

 

[wings421]

Long live the -9's!! Lots of awards to DC-9 CA/FO in yesterdays April APA. Empty the sandbox.

What bases and how many? Where do they get the bodies from, do they have to displace from other seats since hiring isn't going on?

 

[Superpilot92]

What bases and how many? Where do they get the bodies from, do they have to displace from other seats since hiring isn't going on?

The CA awards were RDs meaning they are coming back to a previously displaced position.

The FO awards were to people bidding off of current equipment to the -9.

The interesting part is that the previous CA displacements were because of the reductions in -9s. So this may be the indication we have been waiting for in regards to if more -9s will be coming back. These are the first -9 awards in months. Combine that with the company looking for IPs on the -9 now it has to make you wonder. Supposedly we will hear something soon. We'll see :beer:

 

[surplus1]

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[atpcliff]

Hi!

May, 2005:

New Job
Just got picked up by Kalitta. The way it looks now, it doesn't make sense to go back to Northwest, financially ($ or retirement), airplane (DC-9 vs. 747) or lifestyle (days off). And Kalitta seems to be a growing operation.

It's REALLY hard to figure out what to do!!!

cliff
GRB

 

[Donsa320]

Ya ever read the horrible English in the Airbus manuals?

Someone just learning English would produce a better manual - even if it was nothing but "See light - push button".

I recall having to explain to a mechanic trying to clear an A-320 write-up as to what "Cavalry Charge" meant in the manual.
(For non-bus types...it is the aural warning for certain messages that sounds a little like a bugle call.) <grin>
DC

 

[waveflyer]

Eat your heart out Delta.

Remember when you guys were low enough to fly this ariplane? ala DC9-15?

Hopefully most of you smart Delta guys will realize this is a GOOD thing that this airplane is in the mainline fleet, unlike the E-175 (which is much better looking) or the CRJ-900 (which is much better looking)

Are you starting to get it now? Mainline is the way to go. Shiny Jet Syndrome is dying. Hopefully one day ALL of us will understand that a job with the mainline is the only way to go. (even if you don't fly pretty new airplanes)

COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER!

 

[BlueRidger]

The increase in DC-9 flying is because they are flying more of the Compass flights. I had 5 legs cancelled in the last 2 days for lack of Captains. They just stopped upgrading people and shot themselves in the foot. Those flighs were taken by DC-9s. Kind of the way it should be I guess.

 

[Monster Buck]

The increase in DC-9 flying is because they are flying more of the Compass flights. I had 5 legs cancelled in the last 2 days for lack of Captains. They just stopped upgrading people and shot themselves in the foot. Those flighs were taken by DC-9s. Kind of the way it should be I guess.

Since Compass now flies former DC-9 flights, it would be more accurate to say that the increased DC-9 usage is from the DC-9 flying more of ITS OWN FLIGHTS!

 

[nwaredtail]

The increase in DC-9 flying is because they are flying more of the Compass flights. I had 5 legs cancelled in the last 2 days for lack of Captains. They just stopped upgrading people and shot themselves in the foot. Those flighs were taken by DC-9s. Kind of the way it should be I guess.

Not true, the increase in DC-9 flying is for April and beyond. Any DC-9 flying now is due to the scheduling screwups of Compass and is short term.

 

[BlueRidger]

Even though I fly for Compass, I would rather see the mainline aircraft flying those routes. That why I say thats the way it should be.
Use the E175 to fly new routes such as DTW-MRY. or if I had my my way, anywhere in the Caribbean.

 

[waveflyer]

or... since you are all in the merging lists mode- put the compass guys on the one seniority list like it should be and make the e175 a mainline a/c. it's an airliner, i don't care who you are.

 

[Superpilot92]

Not true, the increase in DC-9 flying is for April and beyond. Any DC-9 flying now is due to the scheduling screwups of Compass and is short term.

100% correct

 

[nwaredtail]

or... since you are all in the merging lists mode- put the compass guys on the one seniority list like it should be and make the e175 a mainline a/c. it's an airliner, i don't care who you are.

Pretty sure many Compass pilots wouldn't have the "numbers" needed to be flying for DAL. (i.e. F/O's flight time, etc).