New DAL senority List

[filejw]

I realize this IS the award but the award now has questions that need clarification and answers. Not to worry though because the arbitrators named themselves the persons who will resolve said questions going forward therefore insuring their own job protection in the future. Who gets to fly the W's delivered (airplanes already in the works and with registered N numbers) where Anderson is using unplayable W's to purchase these W's will most certainly create a strong debate yet to be resolved.

If you read it the arbitrators appointed themselfs to answer all those future questions.

 

[airport757]

There is no doubt that the Delta pilots got majorly hosed on this one. It isn't even close. NWA pilots got a pay raise, get to get out of flying 40 year old dc-9s, get to keep only (Northwest pilots only) flying their 744 and 787s, get to fly 777s because Delta never likes new airplanes anyway (yes they were always going to go cancel the 787 orders) and arbitration panel obviously will say that the 777 are replacements, get to have way better bases, get to keep their pensions, did not loose very much system wide seniority (inother words have higher relative seniority), get to fly internationally because we have triple the amount of international planes that aren't fenced...I could go on and on...you guys even get furlough protections with the 757. But at least we can all move on now. Just had to get a little of that out there.

 

[MJ42]

As long as your pilots stay on their own bases they will thrive. I can't see that many DAL pilots bidding ANC, MSP, MEM, and oh yeah the ever thriving DTW. SEA is so senior it doesn't even apply. So, stay on your own base, on NWA equipment and you will have the same career movement as you would've before this nightmare ruined career expectations for a lot of us.

I'm gonna bid 76er just to piss you off!:laugh: Kidding, but I'm surprised most accept the list. I think we dodged a bullet and should be happy it's not the US Airways debacle!

 

[p3flteng]

About what I had expected, .....less than I had hoped for but liveable enough to move on.

I look forward to putting this whole thing behind and I personally refuse to be a miserable SOB, so if any of you Miserable SOB's out there want to rant and rave about it in the cockhouse, save it for the rearview mirror on your drive home.

Life is too short to be pissed off at the world all the time, besides beers cold.

 

[ualdriver]

Can anyone post the final ruling so those interested can read it?

 

[loser]

I agree with JetJockey. As another junior ER pilot I fear losing my seat in a shifting of flying. I can see myself on a narrow body out of DTW this time next year..... All in all the award seems somewhat fair but fences to protect DAL's international flying would have been nice.

 

[navigator]

new day

As a 40yr old junior 76ER Delta dude, I also hoped for a better position (I had about 500 below prior and now less than 800). The trigger has been pulled though, and there’s no use in whining and discord…it will not make anyone’s life better by it (though I realize pilots have an amazing affinity for this…well, lets just say we desire things better and easier). I wish the best for the new Delta, for its success is what will move us upwards more than anything.

 

[regionalcap]

disregard....

 

[DTW320]

There is no doubt that the Delta pilots got majorly hosed on this one. It isn't even close. NWA pilots got a pay raise, get to get out of flying 40 year old dc-9s, get to keep only (Northwest pilots only) flying their 744 and 787s, get to fly 777s because Delta never likes new airplanes anyway (yes they were always going to go cancel the 787 orders) and arbitration panel obviously will say that the 777 are replacements, get to have way better bases, get to keep their pensions, did not loose very much system wide seniority (inother words have higher relative seniority), get to fly internationally because we have triple the amount of international planes that aren't fenced...I could go on and on...you guys even get furlough protections with the 757. But at least we can all move on now. Just had to get a little of that out there.

Both sides are supposed to pissed, remember? Despite your list of complaints, it sure seems to have gone more DAL's way than NWA's. I personally gained 2% relative seniority over standalone NWA but find myself over 1500 numbers junior to some DAL guys hired after me. 1500.....that's approx 12% of the list. Not sure how those DAL guys got "majorly hosed".

What has bigger significance? Not sure. I guess it depends on what happens in the future. I'm all ears for further "education" on how I "scored big-time" or "got hosed"

 

[saabservant]

I think I'd rather be screwed on this new list, than furloughed on another, like now....
bah, humbug!