"Traffic in sight"

[whatitdoing?]

He's not responding.....I'm thinking he forgot that he posted something. Damn, this is a funny thread!!

 

[zman]

US pilot: Top o' the mornin' Lagos XYZ1234 joinin' ya at three oh oh we got the digits.

Lagos: XYZ1234 seh esteemit nupahm, goolf wheeskee, cahnfahm regeestrehshan mahk, endurrunce, nahmbah on bod.

US pilot: Whut?

That is absolutely hilarious!!! Mach is probably not responding cause he went to take his day nap.

 

[Occam's Razor]

I must say that standard phraseology is lacking in America. I was flying with a FO the other month who LACKED any idea what standard phraseology was. This might not be a problem in America, but we were in Africa, and the slang did nothing to improve our situation. Now I am not suggesting everyone start calling "three" a "tree" etc, but calling out "traffic in sight" has no place in the ICAO rules of standard phraseology outside of the terminal area, among other useless and very confusing non-standard radio calls. Maybe when you're getting absolutely f%^ked in a non-radar environment like most of Africa will those who bitch about nitpickers take notice. During this month I have never experienced such shockingly poor ATC procedures in my entire career. It was not only embarrassing, but almost got us in serious trouble with conflicting traffic. I now have a newfound appreciation for ICAO standard phraseology. The “rougher than a corn cobb” comments have no place anymore.

Stupid Americans! Ironic that the worst aviation disaster in history was a KLM chief Pilot who tried to take off without a clearance....at a foreign airport.

Thought I'd pint that out to you.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

When a controller pints out traffic during cruise at the flight levels, he/she is only doing it simply so you won't be startled seeing another aircraft coming at you. After acknowledging the call, it is NOT necessary nor required to make another call to center to report the traffic "in sight". The controller really doesn't care too much.

Yesterday there were two blocked transmissions because pilots unecessarily called back to report "traffic in sight". An AA flight bugged INDY center TWICE to let the controller know the traffic was in sight....the second time with great irritation in his voice because he wasn't responded to on the first transmission when it was quite clear the controller was doing some coordination.

Is that you Doug McCain.... trying to avoid the issue....???



Seriously.... the only two replies are....


1. Negative contact

or

2. Traffic Insight


These are not accpetable

1. lookin'
2. got 'em on the fishfinder/TCAS
3. Tally Ho
4. switchin' to guns
5. are you going to eat that?

 

[Occam's Razor]

"Was that for us?"

"Hey! Wake up! Dang...where are we?"

"Check out Garfield! He's eating lasagna again!"

"All your traffic are belong to us!"

"You're on Guard!"

 

[GogglesPisano]

One of "those" captains. I wonder if he wonders why his FO's always seem to "stay in their room and study."

 

[OPECJet]

Lighten up Francis.... Both of you.....

When in Africa, use proper phraseology... When in the States, communicate.....

 

[sat74]

US pilot: Top o' the mornin' Lagos XYZ1234 joinin' ya at three oh oh we got the digits.

Lagos: XYZ1234 seh esteemit nupahm, goolf wheeskee, cahnfahm regeestrehshan mahk, endurrunce, nahmbah on bod.

US pilot: Whut?

Sounds about right!

 

[whatitdoing?]

I'm concerned....is he up yet?

 

[j32wreck]

Rez, "Negative Contact" is not a required response. "Roger," is an acceptable response.

Mach80, read the AIM once in a while.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez, "Negative Contact" is not a required response. "Roger," is an acceptable response.

Accpetable yes.... but the best?

I only found two replies specific for a traffic call....


what else is there?

 

[Whataburger]

Best one I heard live...

CLT approach: "CC Air 1234, Traffic one o'clock base to final, you are number 2 for the airport."

Pilot: "We ain't skeered."

 

[skyward80]

When a controller pints out traffic during cruise at the flight levels, he/she is only doing it simply so you won't be startled seeing another aircraft coming at you. After acknowledging the call, it is NOT necessary nor required to make another call to center to report the traffic "in sight". The controller really doesn't care too much.

Yesterday there were two blocked transmissions because pilots unecessarily called back to report "traffic in sight". An AA flight bugged INDY center TWICE to let the controller know the traffic was in sight....the second time with great irritation in his voice because he wasn't responded to on the first transmission when it was quite clear the controller was doing some coordination.

Hey thanks, man! Your aviation genius is swell!

Skyward80

 

[j32wreck]

As far as "best" response, who knows?

"Got 'em on the fish finder," is freaking hilarious when used in response to Tower pointing out the airplane 50 feet in front of you starting their takeoff roll.

 

[say again]

Hey Rez, do you have to bring politics to every thread??? Keep it where it belongs, it's really is not that hard to do (for most anyways).