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Okay, let's vote between Carter and Obama.

I still take Obama. You point is moot.
My point was that everyone ran to the apparent savior in 1976 and what did we get? The only reason Obama is where he is is because he represents as much as the democrats can muster of an outsider. People are so angry with the republicans that just about any democrat can win. We just don't need any Democrat. Maybe a Democrat is what we need but I am sure it is not Obama. Quietly Hillary and Bill, though now dissapointed, are probably licking their chops for 2012. It's going to be close.
 
The biggest issue will be the Bradley Effect. This was seen very regulary in the Hillary Obama stuff. Most people will say they will vote for Obama but when it comes down to it they actually did not. Look at most polls during the election, Obama would be like 8 points up and Hillary would close that gap to like 1 or 2. And sometimes win. This effect has been seen many times over. The first time was with Jesse Jackson. So with the polls to tight, this effect will happen. And sorry to say McCain will win. Plus, most of these calls and polls are done during the day. When republicans are out working and the social party people are at home, with their hands out.
 
Regardless, I think Obama will win and it will take just about four years for the country to completely implode. Then maybe we'll elect somebody that will actually return this country to what it was designed to be: A constitutional, representative republic where the federal government's only jobs are to provide for the common defense of the several states and settle disputes between the states. Period.

I have on the Nomex suit. Flame away.


You are correct, nothing is imploding right now.
 
I am not going to get into the Obama - McCain argument at this point. It seems to have become very emotional reading past posts and I do believe it is a secret ballot for a reason. I will say this, however, our clients are some of the smartest and most influential people around. They have thrived through both republican and democratic presidencies. They have the money to hire the best tax lawyers, accountants, and financial experts the country has to offer. They will always be the group of people with the highest net worth who pay the lowest percentage of their salaries in taxes. Also you can guarantee whatever they do pay in taxes will be money left over after their shares have been purchased. These people will be little affected by either Mccain or Obama.

I think your last sentence says it all.....the upper middle class ( was it 4 million a year? ) and the wealthy will find a way to make more money and continue to get richer ( and it is entirely their right to do so ) regardless of who wins in Nov.
 
My point was that everyone ran to the apparent savior in 1976 and what did we get? The only reason Obama is where he is is because he represents as much as the democrats can muster of an outsider. People are so angry with the republicans that just about any democrat can win. We just don't need any Democrat. Maybe a Democrat is what we need but I am sure it is not Obama. Quietly Hillary and Bill, though now dissapointed, are probably licking their chops for 2012. It's going to be close.

The democrats did it again. Trotted out a someone that has no clue. Hillary would have been a better bet, she seems smarter. I'm not with GutShot, I don't think it is done deal by any streach. But I'm sure Obama can take the wheel and drive the country into the ground as well as anyone.

However it goes down, they are adding trillions of dollars in debt by the minute, to aid banks that made bad loans to people that can't pay. Got to love this country, don't worry we will bail you out if you get into trouble, so do whatever you want. Airlines better get it line quick, or there isn't going to be any money left, they may want to cut in front of the auto makers.
 
Yeah, let's elect the two biggest deregulators in Washington (McCain and Phil Gramm) since the great depression who directly contributed to the mortgage crisis and the deregulation of Wall Street which has resulted in the horrible state of the economy.

The McSame guy that is now blaming the regulators for not doing their jobs and has asked Chris Cox to resign after someone had told him that the president can't actually fire him.

This is the result of McCain economics and people want to vote this guy into office.
 
I don't get why you all keep referring to McCain's age as a major issue on your vote. President Reagan was 69 when he first took office in 1981-1989. He was also the oldest president to live at 93(well minus the last 3-5 years with altimerzs). But he was very healthy up to around his mid 80's.

My .02


McCain has been asked to release his medical records...

Would he get elected knowing he was limited?



Inquiring voters want to know...
 
Yeah, let's elect the two biggest deregulators in Washington (McCain and Phil Gramm) since the great depression who directly contributed to the mortgage crisis and the deregulation of Wall Street which has resulted in the horrible state of the economy.

The McSame guy that is now blaming the regulators for not doing their jobs and has asked Chris Cox to resign after someone had told him that the president can't actually fire him.

This is the result of McCain economics and people want to vote this guy into office.



RALPs or Repub Airline Pilots... love the free market.... but also romance about the good ol days.... the regulated days.....



ahhhhhh the greyness of it all............

the hypocrisy....
 
But you will let them privatize social securtiy and squander away your hard earned dollars??
I would do better taking the same money every other week and putting it in CD's. I would make more and would not have to deal with a moving target.

BTW, they squandered away the money a long time ago. Sometime back in the 70's I believe.
 

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