----whatever, I'll finish with you later....Wow! such aggression! -but I'm sure not seniority aggression, since, after all, you're a big 'ole FLOPGUT captain! FWIW, I had nothing to do with age 65 passing, neither for or against, -it was a neutral issue for me, I simply didn't care! I saw BOTH sides of the argument and they cancelled each other...As for the "generation of miscreants" comment--easy to blame a "generation" isn't it? -great scapegoat. If the BBs are a "generation of miscreants", then YOU are a (generation of) WHINER(S)!Licorice: Age 65 was seniority aggression. An act of hostility perpetrated by your generation of miscreants who think cradle to grave employment is a birthright.Me? Personally? How could that be? I, too, am a victim of age 65..I was 52 when the law passed, I would have moved up scores of numbers by now, eventually hundreds! -right up to about 1% on the list! Damn!!! why did we pass that law, anyway! -Oh well, too late now, no use in crying over spilt milk.(ever hear that saying before, Flapgut?) I guess I'm stuck where everyone else is who hadn't turned 60 before Dec. 2007--my seniority is delayed 5 years! (unless, of course, those who were truely misfortunate enough to be hired by low paying, unstable airlines----succeed in creating a mandatory national seniority list, then it will be longer than 5 years)YOU negated seniority with age 65.Ahh....come on, Fatgut, wonder for few seconds, at least, you don't want to "jump to conclusions" or "fly off on a handle" then make rash, baseless and offensive accusations....naw, you wouldn't want to do that....you wouldn't want offend me, would you?Do we have to wonder how your generation would have acted if this had fell to you to deal with? Not for a second.Discuss it all you want! Except for the remote possibility of its' utility in a merger, it is a completely unworkable "skeme", by which I mean it 'smacks' of socialism.Discussion of a NSL as a backstop to possible future churn in the wake of you retirement age stunt is actually a fair minded idea.Your capacity of omniscience and omnipresence impresses me, Flap,-to be present and to know every second of every pilot's career who was born between 1946 and 1964 is amazing! With those attributes, you surely are qualified to judge them. But you fall short, Fatboy, you lack one essential ingredient to make your world complete....Omnipotence!Of course with the ease and near zero disciplined rise your generation enjoyed to career contentmentThere is no amount of increase or assistance that your generation won't soak up and then clamor for more.