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Delta: These are the "RAISED Fares"?????

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Wow. RA said in interviews not long ago, that fares would raise and there would be no more cheapo MCO / LAS type leisure fares out there that people got used to...Who is subsidizing these fares I wonder?:erm:



From Delta's website planning/deals section:

http://www.delta.com/planning_reser...fare_sales/atlanta_new_york_flights/index.jsp

Between Atlanta, GA (ATL) and:
One-way Sale Fare*
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX (DFW) $104
Detroit-Wayne County, MI (DTW) $99
Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL) $89
Las Vegas, NV (LAS) $139
Los Angeles, CA (LAX) $139
Memphis, TN (MEM) $69
Minneapolis, MN (MSP) $99
New York-Kennedy, NY (JFK) $109
New York-LaGuardia, NY (LGA) $109
Newark, NJ (EWR) $99
Orlando, FL (MCO)
$89
San Francisco, CA (SFO) $139
 
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Wow. RA said in interviews not long ago, that fares would raise and there would be no more cheapo MCO / LAS type leisure fares out there that people got used to...Who is subsidizing these fares I wonder?:erm:



From Delta's website planning/deals section:

http://www.delta.com/planning_reser...fare_sales/atlanta_new_york_flights/index.jsp

Between Atlanta, GA (ATL) and:
One-way Sale Fare*
Dallas-Fort Worth, TX (DFW) $104
Detroit-Wayne County, MI (DTW) $99
Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL) $89
Las Vegas, NV (LAS) $139
Los Angeles, CA (LAX) $139
Memphis, TN (MEM) $69
Minneapolis, MN (MSP) $99
New York-Kennedy, NY (JFK) $109
New York-LaGuardia, NY (LGA) $109
Newark, NJ (EWR) $99
Orlando, FL (MCO) $89
San Francisco, CA (SFO) $139


Could these be for the slow Fall season? Probably. During this period, it looks like airlines want to fill the planes and pay for the fuel, and minimize the losses as much as possible. Profits probably aren't in the cards for many airlines. But, you probably knew that..... what are the INTL fares? Probably a bit higher.. People travelling to LAS from CDG via ATL are probably paying more, in Euros. Air Tran doesn't have that ability.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
It looks like the freshly merged, bankruptcy leaned and meaned Delta is ready to return to the market share games with Airtran. Delta will definitely be a tougher competitor this time around.

The competition will probably make both airlines stronger operators over the long run. Airtran will continue to develope markets outside the ATL to diversify their operation (like MKE and BWI) while Delta pursues some new opportunities with the addition of the NW routes and planes.

It should be an interesting next couple of years.
 
They just continue to lose money, whats different than the last seven years. Doesn't seem to matter in the airline business.
 
They just continue to lose money, whats different than the last seven years. Doesn't seem to matter in the airline business.

I beleive Delta made around 1.7 Billion in 2007 fresh out of BK then oil went up. You probably forgot about that though.
 
Delta is competing with Air Tran on a seat per seat basis. If they have a seat for 109 we will have the exact number of seats that they have for the same price. We are doing it to every city they fly to.
 
Yep. I don't like cheap fares either.

How much slack did AirTran cut Delta during Delta's bankruptcy?

At least they have cheap seats to Detroit so ACL65 and I can get to work in a few weeks. :cartman:
 
Wow. RA said in interviews not long ago, that fares would raise and there would be no more cheapo MCO / LAS type leisure fares out there that people got used to...
He did say that there would be a reduction in leisure fares, but he also made the point that they would not be reducing service in AirTran markets. (most recent qtr conf. call)

Those two statements clearly are at odds with each other and this fare sale was/is the predictable result.

CASM are less on the 757's and 767's than AirTran. Delta will be a winner on routes that support that equipment. The CRJ700/900 is cost comparable on a CASM basis with AirTran's fleet. Delta will surely have to subsidize the head to head flying against CRJ200's.

Delta is paying Mesa and SkyWest/ASA not to fly, so maybe this loses less than the fee for departure contract would force them to lose anyway.
 
$50,000 gamble

My company is offering me $42K plus my sick bank to quit by Sept 1. I missed NWA by one class this spring. I would go if called... Done all I can at a Regional. Sick bank is another $8K...so cash and prizes is $50k...If I get a class soon it would be a nice severance, if I get a class later and I didnt take the deal I cost myself 50K - or I never make it and try wallyworld or whatever...Lastly I have until Jan 15 2009 to go bye bye....One more caviot is it is available to paygrade 12 and above, I dont make that until Nov 12, so they might not wont to boot me out. Discuss
 

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