Burn, baby, BUUURRNNNN! 9E's latest memo...

[Flyer1015]

Ok, I apologize in advance. I've had two too many Red Bulls, and so it will show. Sorry.

Excerpts from the memo, regarding APU usage.

"Any little bit that you can do to help save fuel when using the APU is greatly appreciated."

WHAT?!? Did we just get a new contract? Cause it sounds like they want me to help out a little extra. I don't see any new contract! No thanks! I'll bend over backwards to help with fuel/APU once we get a new contract. Until then, shove it.

"We still receive reports from stations indicating that exteranal air and AC is available, yet the crews choose to leave the APU in operation."

YES! Work to Rule! My fellow 9E pilots, I salute you. Light that beotch up at 10,000 ft during the approach check, each time, every time, and keep it on until you absolutely have to turn it off. And DON'T let station agents tell YOU what to do with YOUR airplane.

Pinnacle’s high level of performance in the second quarter reduced the overall performance penalty owed to Northwest for the six-month period by approximately $0.8 million to $1.7 million.

"We pay large penalties when we exceed the target APU fuel burn established in our service agreements (in the millions)."

Management is so willing to pay penalty fines in the MILLIONS every year, yet, they can't sit down and close the contract with us. The $ spread on the contract is not far. It's so close.

Give me a new contract, otherwise, shove it. I ain't goin out of my way to help 'them' out.

/Rant

 

[CX880]

What's the reason for starting the APU at 10K feet on the CRJ? On the ERJ we usually start it when we get to the gate.

 

[Flyer1015]

What's the reason for starting the APU at 10K feet on the CRJ? On the ERJ we usually start it when we get to the gate.

The Approach Check (done at 10,000 coming down) says "APU/Bleeds.... AS REQUIRED"

If you're landing with anti ice on, then put the bleeds on the APU. But no one is to say you can't turn it on at 10,000 feet.

Hmmmm, I'm gonna be making an idle power descent from 10,000 feet. The air flow in the cabin is gonna suck. I like passenger comfort. Screw management, light that APU up and put the bleeds on it. Ahh, better.

 

[OCP]

What's the reason for starting the APU at 10K feet on the CRJ? On the ERJ we usually start it when we get to the gate.

Because at idle power the engines don't put any cooling air out, so starting the APU helps keep the ship cool.

edit: thats only on the 200. The others don't have that problem.

 

[rene]

So sad

It is people like you who are ruining this industry. The fact is you do have a contract..... The way to help yourself is to do everything you can to help your company compete and succeed.

You are so sad.

RW

 

[Flyerdan]

It is people like you who are ruining this industry. The fact is you do have a contract..... The way to help yourself is to do everything you can to help your company compete and succeed.

You are so sad.

RW

My thoughts exactly! That is very unprofessional behavior.

 

[Flyprdu]

It is people like you who are ruining this industry. The fact is you do have a contract..... The way to help yourself is to do everything you can to help your company compete and succeed.

You are so sad.

RW

3 posts in 5 years. If I were so conservative with my posts, I would make sure that they didn't make me look like a d*uchebag.

 

[XJohXJ]

It is people like you who are ruining this industry. The fact is you do have a contract..... The way to help yourself is to do everything you can to help your company compete and succeed.

You are so sad.

RW

Tell that to the pilots at NWA, who had a few technical issues with their post BK contract. You never got anywhere fast taxiing behind NWA that summer, and after two months they had the contract corrections they needed.

Meanwhile, PCL does not have a current contract, nor anything like it. They will never get one if they keep answering to their management's every beck and call.

Why would their management give them any improvements if they don't need to?

 

[Windsor]

I'm by no means a company pilot, but I'm not going to go out of my way just to run the APU. If I can justify it, I'll use it, but just running it because you want to "stick it" to Nonncaring Blvd is dumb.

 

[XJohXJ]

I agree with you Windsor. I also think that if you're sweating up front from the summer heat, or making pax sweat in the back, just to please mgt, that is also dumb.

 

[405]

The Approach Check (done at 10,000 coming down) says "APU/Bleeds.... AS REQUIRED"

If you're landing with anti ice on, then put the bleeds on the APU. But no one is to say you can't turn it on at 10,000 feet.

Hmmmm, I'm gonna be making an idle power descent from 10,000 feet. The air flow in the cabin is gonna suck. I like passenger comfort. Screw management, light that APU up and put the bleeds on it. Ahh, better.

Bitching about your lack of a contract here does no good. What are you doing about your situation?

 

[405]

Better yet, what is the pilot group doing?

 

[DrewBlows]

Better yet, what is the pilot group doing?

Umm...I think they are running the APU, doing two engine taxis, etc.

 

[405]

Umm...I think they are running the APU, doing two engine taxis, etc.

No sh*t, genious. What are they doing about the bigger problem with the contract or lack thereof?

 

[WayBack]

3 posts in 5 years. If I were so conservative with my posts, I would make sure that they didn't make me look like a d*uchebag.

Nah, instead you have a great big avatar letting everyone know how much of a d*uchebag you are.

 

[el diablo126]

3 posts in 5 years. If I were so conservative with my posts, I would make sure that they didn't make me look like a d*uchebag.

since i have so few number of posts i couldn't help but post on this and comment on the number of yours and wasting your life on flight info

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Nah, instead you have a great big avatar letting everyone know how much of a d*uchebag you are.

What chu got against Obama? Does this make me a douc&e too?

 

[WayBack]

What chu got against Obama? Does this make me a douc&e too?

Everything. And Yes, it does.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Everything. And Yes, it does.

Are you aware of how big a dou*he that makes you look kiddo?

 

[Flyer1015]

No sh*t, genious. What are they doing about the bigger problem with the contract or lack thereof?

WORK TO RULE!

It's CLEAR that 9E management does not care and WILL NOT DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEIR BOTTOM LINE IS HURT (bottom line = dollar). Once their pockets hurt, they go head over heels wondering wtf is happening?!

Look at the ATL flying, as soon as Delta said we lost the flying, look at the changes management came out with to propose a better ATL operation.

ANYONE who has worked at Pinnacle for anything more than a month knows that 9E management will take no action regarding anything until Phil and the rest of the Gang start to hurt in their pockets ($).

Look at NWA, look at ASA. Work to rule!

 

[shortbus driver]

wait...are we supposed to turn it off? I thought we use it on the ground and then leave it on the whole flight as a safety sake of a 3rd generator...and isn't this the exact same memo as last summer? We don't even need mgmt...we can just put out the same memos at the same time every year and literally save millions

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Look at NWA, look at ASA. Work to rule!

You have a very long way to go to measure up to what those two pilot groups did...

Run your APU all you like, it won't make a difference. Wanna make a difference?? Run to Office Depot before your next trip and by a refill for your shiny Parker Pen.

The ASA guys got a TA in a month thanks to the "power of the pen". That was the most rewarding and enjoyable month of my flying career thusfar.

Until you're willing to look at the ground spoiler grounding straps or the inflation of the nose wheel strut at the outstation, you're basically pissing into the wind.

Feel free to PM me if you want details on CRJ "no-go" items...........

 

[Flyer1015]

You have a very long way to go to measure up to what those two pilot groups did...

Run your APU all you like, it won't make a difference. Wanna make a difference?? Run to Office Depot before your next trip and by a refill for your shiny Parker Pen.

The ASA guys got a TA in a month thanks to the "power of the pen". That was the most rewarding and enjoyable month of my flying career thusfar.

Until you're willing to look at the ground spoiler grounding straps or the inflation of the nose wheel strut at the outstation, you're basically pissing into the wind.

Feel free to PM me if you want details on CRJ "no-go" items...........

While you have a point, running APUs will make a difference. There are certain target APU fuel burn established in Pinnacle's service agreements. If those are exceeded, there's hefty fines, in the millions.

Anything to hurt their bottom dollar!

 

[regionaltard]

Feel free to PM me if you want details on CRJ "no-go" items...........

Few people realize that when Tony Montana said "You want to play rough?" "OK, say hello to my leetle friend!" he was actually referring to the often-damaged nonskid surface on the wings below the emergency exits.

 

[Tank Commander]

Let me think...... needless fuel burn while in flight with passengers on borad......... I like the pen idea better.

 

[Raskal]

You have a very long way to go to measure up to what those two pilot groups did...

Run your APU all you like, it won't make a difference. Wanna make a difference?? Run to Office Depot before your next trip and by a refill for your shiny Parker Pen.

The ASA guys got a TA in a month thanks to the "power of the pen". That was the most rewarding and enjoyable month of my flying career thusfar.

Until you're willing to look at the ground spoiler grounding straps or the inflation of the nose wheel strut at the outstation, you're basically pissing into the wind.

Feel free to PM me if you want details on CRJ "no-go" items...........

NJA did the same thing with great success, no-go write ups are much more effective than trying to increase fuel burn which may or may not be noticed or just laughed at.

Write it up so it's parked, now you're screwing with completion factor and that sh!t get's noticed fast.

Study the no-go items for your airplane, then whip out the mighty pen.

 

[Tarzan]

Few people realize that when Tony Montana said "You want to play rough?" "OK, say hello to my leetle friend!" he was actually referring to the often-damaged nonskid surface on the wings below the emergency exits.

About choked on my Mountain Dew. I figured I should immortalize this one.

 

[Smacktard]

NJA did the same thing with great success, no-go write ups are much more effective than trying to increase fuel burn which may or may not be noticed or just laughed at.

Write it up so it's parked, now you're screwing with completion factor and that sh!t get's noticed fast.

Study the no-go items for your airplane, then whip out the mighty pen.

What, and jeopardize flying the stretch!!!? They want that thing so badly they're working like good little pilots to keep Delta happy. That'll show 'em! We'll burn an extra 100lbs of fuel on the APU!!!

 

[DrewBlows]

No sh*t, genious. What are they doing about the bigger problem with the contract or lack thereof?

Sorry I didn't spell it out for you in simple terms you could understand, Einstein. Burning fuel and grounding airplanes is a negotiating tactic which works. That is what the pilot group is doing, or at least they should be if they want a new contract.

 

[COOPERVANE]

frayed shoulder belts, non-skid on the pilot seats to aid egress out the emergency hatch. GLD/gear door/ pax door ground straps, keep clear ADG placards, NWS "armed" sign, lav flush button not illuminated, map lights out, scratches under cargo door.

AT THE VERY LEAST you will get these items fixed. At the most, you will wake "them" up