NWA/DAL JCBA Vote Ends 3pm Today MON 8/11: How Soon Do You All Get Results?

[Noserider76]

Jesus, how can you be so uninformed? LOA19, which DAL pilots overwhelmingly passed "locked in" (as DAL guys liked to say) essentially the same contract as the JCBA until 2012 and gave up what scope leverage you had. You just got a few extra perks with this agreement above LOA 19 without any leverage. You should be happy, if this didn't pass you'd be sitting on LOA 19 until 2012. Fortunately your MEC and the majority of DAL pilots actually could comprehend this, which is why it passed. The battle for better rates died long ago with LOA 19.

How can you be so self-righteous? Your non-stop sell job here was very tiresome. There was plenty of leverage left on both sides and many other ways that this could have been done even with LOA 19. We got very little in addition to LOA 19 as it was. I could have as easily lived with LOA 19 as this JPWA knowing we at least tried to make a dent in what was lost. 39% plus of my coworkers agreed.

We'll never have the leverage we had and I don't believe an airline this big will have a credible strike threat in the future. I'm happy to have the NWA guys on board (even you), I just think a lot more could have and should have been accomplished.

 

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Noserider,

What more do you honestly think we could have achieved? What would have had to be in the TA for you to have endorsed it?

Thansk,

 

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double post....

 

[Noserider76]

Noserider,

What more do you honestly think we could have achieved? What would have had to be in the TA for you to have endorsed it?

Thansk,

Scope, reserve, 10% more compensation to name a few. I think the agenda (National?) turned after LOA 19 to one of avoiding US Air at all costs and at the expense of using our combined leverage to achieve some meaningful restoration. We allowed ourselves to be shoe-horned into artificial timelines. I realize we gave up a lot of leverage with 19 but I still thought we had a good chance to see the entire contract opened instead of a few tweeks to our BK contract and a 4 year extension. I think a rejection on our part would have yielded a LOA 19 equivalent for you and a hammer for the negotiators. We'll never know now, I guess. Time to move on.

 

[hockeypilot44]

Scope, reserve, 10% more compensation to name a few. I think the agenda (National?) turned after LOA 19 to one of avoiding US Air at all costs and at the expense of using our combined leverage to achieve some meaningful restoration. We allowed ourselves to be shoe-horned into artificial timelines. I realize we gave up a lot of leverage with 19 but I still thought we had a good chance to see the entire contract opened instead of a few tweeks to our BK contract and a 4 year extension. I think a rejection on our part would have yielded a LOA 19 equivalent for you and a hammer for the negotiators. We'll never know now, I guess. Time to move on.

We will never know. It also could have lead to a whipsaw. You make good points.