Alaska Airlines Jumpseat troubles?

[Ocity]

This resolution will be DOA. Don't worry about it.

 

[PCL_128]

That is a broad bush you are using.... I know many "Union" (read previous ALPA members) that now work for non-union airlines, due to their airline going under (i.e; Aloha, ATA, and others).

You advocate kicking these guys (and gals) while they are down?

Skipper

It's not about "kicking someone while they're down," it's simply a matter of not extending a union-negotiated benefit to non-union pilots. Look, I frequently gave the jumpseat to non-union pilots when I was a Captain. We had jumpseat agreements with them, so no big deal as long as they didn't go into some anti-union rant. But if a union wants to make it official policy to only allow unionized pilots on their jumpseats, then I don't see a problem with that.

 

[Freight Dog]

TZSkipper is right. I know a number of former Aloha guys, including my former classmate who are now flying for Virgin America. Sorry, but ALPA carriers that offer any sort of a livable wage aren't hiring... actually they're furloughing. Time to put down the union koolaid and start looking at reality.

As Tejas said... crossing a picket line, you'd have a case for banning scabs from jumpseats.

Taking a job at a nonunion carrier, especially when your union job disappeared, and then having your former "brothers" stab you in the back by denying you jumpseats... with friends and brothers like that, who needs enemies?

 

[eskimopilot]

As expected, after some open and honest debate, the resolution failed. It garnered exactly one (1) vote in favor.
Thankfully the process that enables an individual ALPA member to have his voice heard, despite the topic, was honored.
Regards.

 

[FADEC]

I don't post a response because I've responded over and over again already. No need to beat a dead horse.

Hey Karl. I said it before and I'll say it again. You're a spineless little dick.

 

[CRJ200FO]

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[AuburnRedneck9]

Go Alaska.

Good for you guys. Finally sick of getting screwed by borderline scabs? It's one thing to give bush pilots a lift and another to help those dirt bags who are driving us all into the ground. I hope that it passes with flying colors.

Please tell me this is fake. Copied from another site.

John Hornibrook, Chairman
> ALA Council 67
>
>
>
> *********************
>
>
> Resolution
>
> Whereas the livelihood of Alaska Airlines pilots is
> threatened by the continuing downward spiral of airline
> industry pilot wages and benefits, and
>
> Whereas nonunion airlines who employ pilots at
> significantly lower wage rates and reduced benefit packages
> enjoy a marked competitive advantage over Alaska Airlines,
> and
>
> Whereas Alaska Airlines management is publicly committed to
> providing "industry average" compensation to
> Alaska employees, and
>
> Whereas providing nonunion pilots with no-cost
> transportation further enables their employers to enjoy an
> unfair economic advantage over Alaska Airlines and imposes
> undue negative pressure on Alaska Airlines pilot wages and
> benefits, and
>
> Whereas Section 115.E.2 of the ALPA Administrative Manual
> recognizes the Union membership card as a valid jumpseat
> identification document, and
>
> Whereas Section 115.G.3 of the ALPA Administrative Manual
> encourages the consideration of union affiliation as a
> criteria for determining jumpseat boarding priority, and
>
> Whereas Section 115.D.1 of the ALPA Administrative Manual
> directs that captains, not customer service agents, may
> offer cabin seating to pilots requesting jumpseat access,
>
> Therefore Be It Resolved the Alaska MEC petition the Alaska
> Airlines Chief Pilot to immediately suspend the reciprocal
> jumpseat agreement with jetBlue, Virgin America, and
> Allegiant Airlines until such time as their pilots are
> affiliated with a national or independent pilot union.
>
> Be it Further Resolved the Alaska MEC petition the Alaska
> Airlines chief pilot to refrain from entering into
> reciprocal jumpseat agreements with any nonunion airline
> that operates narrow-body airline equipment of 100 seats or
> more and whose highest captain pay rate is less than the
> highest Alaska Airlines captain book pay rate.
>
> Be it Further Resolved the Alaska MEC encourage all Alaska
> Airlines captains to fully exercise the provisions of
> Sections 115 E.2, G.3, and D.1 of the ALPA Administrative
> Manual.

 

[onewithwings]

Didn't Horizon suspend jumpseats with United over their policy a few years back. I'm remembering they did and it worked in the end.

That's a big negative.

 

[Ameriagle]

Good for you guys. Finally sick of getting screwed by borderline scabs? It's one thing to give bush pilots a lift and another to help those dirt bags who are driving us all into the ground. I hope that it passes with flying colors.

You can write....you just can't read, I guess!

 

[Tejas-Jet]

As expected, after some open and honest debate, the resolution failed. It garnered exactly one (1) vote in favor.

Just as I've always said....take it to your LEC for a vote. when your peers vote, you find out pretty quick if they are in your corner....

...or if you are way out in left field