Has anyone had problems with the cabs in East Hampton? I flew my owner in there a few days ago and while he took a limo to a friends house, the FO and I took a cab. She quoted us $50 for the 30 min ride, but once we got there it was $50 EACH. Make sure you get the price in writing first, or just watch it. Complete rip off. It didn't really come out of my pocket (owner pays for everything), but what a joke.
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Watch out for the cabbies in HTO--East Hampton
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Nothing is cheap in HTO, but try East End Cab next time. Won't try to rip you off.
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It's called BAIT and SWITCH. This happened to a Flexjet buddy a few weeks ago - same location. Make sure to get a clear answer about the total cost for all occupants and bags before you step in the cab - my buddy didn't (beyond just an estimate for $50). My buddy said the cabbie in question was a woman. So, look out for her...
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Thanks for contributing...
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FLYLOW22
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Why did you pay it?
I've had issues with cab companies in the past (rymes with Mellow Cab) and called the police myself to get resolution.
Don't cower to a cabbie if you are in the right. Ever. Most are 3rd world country immigrants trying to make sense of the American dream... don't get caught up in their "reality".
You got had. All you needed to do is walk away or call the police.
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OK, well what if the police are called and it is a "he said she said" sort of situation where the cabbie claims he/she said $50 per person? What happens then? What can the police do? Can the customers still not pay in that situation - even if the cabbie won't budge on price? How does it get resolved in the moment with the cop there?
I guess I haven't had much experience with situations like these...
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johnsonrod said:
FIRST: ALWAYS ASK THE DRIVER APPROX. HOW MUCH THE FAIR WILL COST... NEVER PAY MORE THAN 10% OF THAT FIGURE!
Have no clue who the cabbie was... But can you imagine being a cop and standing there looking at Ashem Ackman Musarri and two pilots in uniform??? All the while Ashem is trying to pimp you out of another $50?? I dont think the cop would buy it.
I regularly turn down cabs for cleanliness, driver appearance... and at least once a month I call them out for BS routes. I tell them they can stop the meter now, cause I aint payin no mo! Thats when they start the Oh oh... oh.. sorry.. oh oh. sorry I new driver!
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I used to work out there many years ago as a lineman and everything in that area doubles in the summer. They make absolutely no money out there during the winter time months so they price gouge during the summer time. It's a great place for the rich and famous, but bad for poor pilots like us.
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You are the one wearing the uniform. Act accordingly. By default, you have the percieved socio-non verbal upper hand over the Somali from Yellow Cab in any conflict scenario.
He said, she said? Oh, boo!
The schedule of fees charded to taxi passengers is hardly as convoluted as how the airlines charge for tickets. A simple anonymous call to their company with all 3 of you presetn should be all the matter takes to achieve resolution.
When the cabbie I had started acting like a thief and I called him on it, he initially got pissed. 2 mintutes later when it became apparent that the PoPo was coming he simply left. Guys he realized his story wasn't so strong.
I never heard another word from the cab company in my situation.
A verbal contract is a contract. End of story.
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Works great until T and E decides that your cab fare was above the "normal and customary" amount, calls the cab company and gets a lower fare quote for the trip resulting in your per diem getting garneshed.
Try that for he said, she said. I'd rather fight he cabbie than T and E.
Don't think the above scenario can happen? Think again.
We called the police, and even talked to the cab dispatcher. The police said that they put the cab company on notice, but since the policeman wasn't there when the cabbie announced the "fare", then he couldn't do anything. It was ridiculous, and I told the dispatcher I would never use his company again, and he said "fine." I didn't pay for it regardless (the owner did eventually), still I thought I would post it here on this board for you guys.
Not in East Hampton. That is why I posted this ridiculous story. And, you sound like a know-it-all who really doesn't know it all. You weren't there.
This was meant as a friendly warning to others out there who might fall victim to this "bait and switch" as someone else pointed out. I agree - look out for the woman cab driver when you fly into HTO.
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so, if an owner asks you how how long the flight is, and you end up being off by more than 10%, is all the extra time free of charge?
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Actually, it is.
Most operators give a round trip quote. Say, you want to go from TEB-MIA, the customer gets a quote to put the plane there and back to TEB. Now, if it is a one way, the price is the same. But, if you get a hold for an hour a long the way, you don't tack an extra hour on to the price, the operator absorbs it.
That is why the customer does not get a reduced price if you can pick up a backhaul, these "added revenue" flights help pick up the difference when the operator underquotes. It all evens out way down the line.
Anyway, that's the way I used to do it.
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I've had multiple problems with cabs at Gabreski. Especially late at night. Smoking the whole way, no ac, the list goes on and on.
Being from the city I don't put up with any of this crap. Get off the cell phone, turn on the AC, stop smoking and roll up the windows.
If it doesn't happen I get out or I refuse to pay. They are legally bound to provide you with a safe form of transportation. I also track the route on my cell phone to make sure the guy is going the right way. Thank god for google maps.
Being from the city I don't put up with any of this crap. Get off the cell phone, turn on the AC, stop smoking and roll up the windows.
If it doesn't happen I get out or I refuse to pay. They are legally bound to provide you with a safe form of transportation. I also track the route on my cell phone to make sure the guy is going the right way. Thank god for google maps.
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You left out some elements in your scenario. You mentioned that the pilots were in uniform but, you omitted what the cab driver is wearing. What if he is wearing a suit? Or at least a shirt and tie? Are you implying that a cop would make his decision on what someone is wearing? Or is it race? If it is race, why did you omit the race of the pilots? Never mind.
Well, your answer depends. If the cop is a racist and his decision is based on the driver's ethnic background, then yes, he would definitely decide in favor of the pilots in uniform. However, if the cop is not a BRAINLESS RACIST A$$HOLE (ahem!
), he would have to arrive at his decision without bias and prejudice.
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Heavy Set...
The other guys here have basically proved my point.
Many (not all) cabbies operate on a professional level resembling pond scum. They will take advantage of you if you let them.
You are the professional. You are dressed as such. You hold the higher ground. Use it.
You paid. You didn't need to.
The other guys here have basically proved my point.
Many (not all) cabbies operate on a professional level resembling pond scum. They will take advantage of you if you let them.
You are the professional. You are dressed as such. You hold the higher ground. Use it.
You paid. You didn't need to.
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Something else to watch out for:
Some cab drivers are supposed to charge a set fee from the airport within a certain area. Look for signs in the airport or ask about this before you go. If you don't know, some of them will charge you by the meter, which is always more than the fee.
Two places where this is a factor are BOS and DEN, although there are probably others.
Some cab drivers are supposed to charge a set fee from the airport within a certain area. Look for signs in the airport or ask about this before you go. If you don't know, some of them will charge you by the meter, which is always more than the fee.
Two places where this is a factor are BOS and DEN, although there are probably others.
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I've never seen BOS have a set fare to the city and I take cabs back and forth to the airport about 4 times a week from the heart of the city.
Although boston cabs have to be the smeliest wrecks on earth. You're lucky when the cab doesn't break down on the way to the airport.
They are a mess.
Although boston cabs have to be the smeliest wrecks on earth. You're lucky when the cab doesn't break down on the way to the airport.
They are a mess.
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I fight with Boston cabbies weekly. Storrow Drive is the cabbie's best friend. So is the Ted Williams tunnel.
I got into it with a cabbie in Vegas a couple of years ago. He got lost going to Signature!!! Even though I told him where it was. He tried to charge me the exact fare on the meter after taking 2 wrong turns and making 2 U turns even after I told him where to go. I told him to eat ******************** and gave him $10 (the meter said $18). I told him that I would be in the FBO and to call the cops if he had a problem. He didn't, of course.
On another note... if a cabbie doesn't get his ass out of the front seat and help with my bag, I am NOT tipping him. I help all of our pax with bags on every flight. There's no cabbie that's too good to lift a friggin bag. I will tell them "dude, you lost $5 because you didn't help with bags." If we all did this, they might get the hint.
I got into it with a cabbie in Vegas a couple of years ago. He got lost going to Signature!!! Even though I told him where it was. He tried to charge me the exact fare on the meter after taking 2 wrong turns and making 2 U turns even after I told him where to go. I told him to eat ******************** and gave him $10 (the meter said $18). I told him that I would be in the FBO and to call the cops if he had a problem. He didn't, of course.
On another note... if a cabbie doesn't get his ass out of the front seat and help with my bag, I am NOT tipping him. I help all of our pax with bags on every flight. There's no cabbie that's too good to lift a friggin bag. I will tell them "dude, you lost $5 because you didn't help with bags." If we all did this, they might get the hint.
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You left out some elements in your scenario. You mentioned that the pilots were in uniform but, you omitted what the cab driver is wearing. What if he is wearing a suit? Or at least a shirt and tie? Are you implying that a cop would make his decision on what someone is wearing? Or is it race? If it is race, why did you omit the race of the pilots? Never mind.
Well, your answer depends. If the cop is a racist and his decision is based on the driver's ethnic background, then yes, he would definitely decide in favor of the pilots in uniform. However, if the cop is not a BRAINLESS RACIST A$$HOLE (ahem!
I don't think the cop seeing it as an immigrant trying to hustle 2 pilots as being racist. He's a cop he sees stuff like this all the time. However, the liberal way is to cry boo hoo for the poor ____place victim type here____ who can do no wrong because liberals love to baby over "racism" every time someone who is not white gets arrested for committing a crime. Gimme a break. And yes, I know, everyone who doesn't vote for Obama is racist.
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The best is after you've had a couple of drinks and the cabbie thinks your either a tourist or too drunk to realize he took the long way home.
Boston cabbies are the worst scumbags on earth. I wonder who they are always talking to on the phone wtf. Whenever I get in a cab its, turn off the phone, turn on the AC, and turn off the jihadist music.
They have to have ezpass but they get around it by not putting money on it so you get to spend an extra 10 minutes in the cash line at the tolls.
So annoys me. I'm sure we'll experience it saturday.
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