Airtran cutting wages 10%

[Colonel Savage]

Because Forbes.com says airline pilots are one of the highest paid professions. (STILL!) :laugh:

http://www.forbes.com/2008/05/15/jo...pm_0515bestjobs_slide_12.html?thisSpeed=15000

That is good for a laugh. I'm sure the JBLU copilot would think it's ridiculous too.

 

[§kyye Candy]

That is good for a laugh. I'm sure the JBLU copilot would think it's ridiculous too.

I was thinking maybe they were using TWA figures from 15 years ago!

 

[§kyye Candy]

The only way this pilot group will take any cut is if it is imposed on us by a judge. I would guess most guys would rather this place shut down than take any cuts. I flew with an 11 year captain this last week. He is looking to get out. This is it for me. Im 35 and should be loving life. But Im not in the mood to start over anywhere. I think a bunch of our guys feel the same way. We may go down if flames but we will go down swinging. PAY CUTS my azz. "Strength and Honor, at my signal unleash Hell!"

Admirable attitude - my hat's off to you guy. Best of luck to you, and don't let them bully you!

 

[carl p]

I will be cut, but I say again...Full pay till the last day!

 

[71driver]

I can assure you nobody is/will take concessions period.
Warm regards

 

[PanPan]

I can assure you nobody is/will take concessions period.
Warm regards

Speak for yourself. I would be happy to give back a small concession if:

It was written into a new TA.
After 6 months pay rates snapped to the rates we wanted when negotiations began ~4 years ago.
Scheduling was fixed
Insurance was fixed
LTD was fixed
Retirement was increased
Grievances were resolved
Hostages returned
Masseuses put on every flight deck (ok, that ones a bonus)
.
.
.
.
.
Along with a bunch of other issues that need fixing.

What do you think the odds of that happening are?

 

[Colonel Savage]

"What do you think the odds of that happening are?"

About the same as the Tech Bubble coming back along with $20/bbl oil.

Dam I miss the 90's!

 

[CoolSidePillow]

What do you think the odds of that happening are?[/quote]


About the same as Bush, his entire family, his entire administration, ALL of his business associates, Rumsfeld, and every single elitist human parasite that helped start this mess 8 years ago being executed. Oh yeah, I hate Democrats too.

 

[Citrusflyer]

Food for thought: Maybe management is acting this way because they know something about not being around much longer. I'm NOT thinking as in the case of Ch 11, but more as in the case of a sale. Then everything they have done makes a little more sense (but is still highly unethical).

I'm not a huge rumor monger (who is on this board, right?). And as strange as this sounds there have been stronger rumors about SWA buying us/or just the 737's (with/without crews). However, the actions of mgt. and those of the union are starting to sway my thinking a little.

On a conference call with the union yesterday MB had a strange answer to a question about a rumor of SWA taking all the 737's and their crews and not the 717 planes and crews. Instead of his usual "I don't talk about rumors" answer, he was clear that that maneuver, while not ethical, was completely legal under our current contract. Later, he went on to state that he had every intention of getting a new contract done in 60 days regardless of the financial situation. Scope anyone?

Our management has taken some breathtakingly horrendous actions of late, actions which would bring consequences down the line, not only from frustrated employees, but investors and media as well. Let's face it, out right firing of 177 pilots so you don't have to replace 15 old guys in training, and so you wont have to pay insurance and can collect their non-vested B funds for the coffers wont play well, even in today's media. UNLESS you wont be around to suffer those consequences. I'm sure the skies of Orlando are readied with enough golden parachutes to make Disney look second rate.

The union is racing for a contract, the management is thinning the herd and stock is a buck and change. Not even our guys can squeeze blood from this turnip under these circumstances. UNLESS they have something already lined up.

Like I said...food for thought.....

 

[FIREMAN]

"collect their non-vested B funds for the coffers"

B-fund does not start untile after the first year.