Suggestion from a pilot...

[dapilot]

Hi FA's, Im a Captain with a 121 airline and it would be nice that if FA's are jumpseating (even if its cabin only), to say hi to one of the crew members when they come onboard. You are crewmembers just like pilots - show ID, and jumpseat form to one of the crew members when you come on board as a courtesy for traveling for free (or nearly free). There is an airline out there (cough AA cough) where their airline training doesn't state this to them and they just casually stroll on board and have a seat. Pilots notice this and do not appreciate it.

However, I'm not saying all FA's do this - just from my experience, I have seen this happen on multiple flights.

 

[navigatro]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought F/A's can non-rev, but not jumpseat. (as in cockpit, under FAR authority)

However, it is always polite to say hi to the crew in any case.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

DaPilot:

How many AA fa's have you had really had on your "jumpseat" in your B1900 airliner?

 

[dapilot]

midnight, we dont have a jumpset but the way any airline employee gets to fly on our airline for free is by filling out a JUMPSEAT FORM and following the protocol listed on the back of the form.

ps - i have personally taken a numerous amount of AA employees including entire crews from city to city and for the most part, they introduce themselves and present the form (as is required by the jumpseat form) and I welcome them with open arms and open seating for them. But there are still a few stuck-up crew members on various airlines that think small planes dont deserve the same respect as larger ones, and this post is addressed to those people.

 

[Adobo Pilot]

midnight, we dont have a jumpset but the way any airline employee gets to fly on our airline for free is by filling out a JUMPSEAT FORM and following the protocol listed on the back of the form.

ps - i have personally taken a numerous amount of AA employees including entire crews from city to city and for the most part, they introduce themselves and present the form (as is required by the jumpseat form) and I welcome them with open arms and open seating for them. But there are still a few stuck-up crew members on various airlines that think small planes dont deserve the same respect as larger ones, and this post is addressed to those people.

That is correct. You can only "non-rev" on your own airline and associated airlines (ie: comair/delta), but if you are trying to hitch on another airline, you list for the "jumpseat". Even if you get a seat in the back, if you are listed under the jumpseat, you still gotta introduce/ask/thank them. Everyone have a good beer! :beer:

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

How many AA fa's have you had really had on your "jumpseat" in your B1900 airliner?

DA: Notwithstanding that obvious (but funny) swipe taken at you, I admire your stand. Good post.

 

[pipejockey]

I can understand some guys feeling slighted by the jumseaters not introducing themselves but personally, I don't want to be bothered by them actually. I frown upon passengers whether jumpseating or non-reving, coming into the cockpit. Just more people I don't want to talk to that I then am required to. Just my opinion.

 

[Skybus]

I see your as big a d*&k head here as on the other boards. Get a life a%@hole.

 

[EdAtTheAirport]

^^^ That guy must be a hoot at the dinner table. ^^^

 

[Thedude]

That is correct. You can only "non-rev" on your own airline and associated airlines (ie: comair/delta),

Umm no. Ever heard of ID 90s. Dont have to be associated to buy 'em. Depends airline to airline.

 

[Adobo Pilot]

Umm no. Ever heard of ID 90s. Dont have to be associated to buy 'em. Depends airline to airline.

I was talking about free travel smart ass.

 

[acaTerry]

I can understand some guys feeling slighted by the jumseaters not introducing themselves but personally, I don't want to be bothered by them actually. I frown upon passengers whether jumpseating or non-reving, coming into the cockpit. Just more people I don't want to talk to that I then am required to. Just my opinion.

It's not THAT much more work, or do you just not like people? (Not a shot at you BTW)
It might be a good idea to know they are there if you need them (unruly pax, etc). UAL 232....remember that one? Good thing the FA knew of the DC10 Instructor in the back!

 

[vtwo]

not really true

I have personally put FA's in the cockpit JS for travel.
the Gom( fom for others) states that there are a list of people allowed. then at the end it basically state any one with the concurrence of the Captain and a member of Upper Management.
so when the time is need I whip out the cell phone make 2 calls get a fax sent to the gate and were out of there.
Why is it so hard for people to want to help others?
Or maybe the questions should be , why do we as pilots give up so quick when it time to helps others?
"Oh I am sorry your not on the list" good luck else
where. when One could say hey dave don't you have one of those buddy passes you never use for this guy.

It just irks me to see some pilots so self righteous.
give a fellow employee a hand. this industry is sticking it to us from all side, don't be one of the pr1ks.

 

[pipejockey]

It's not THAT much more work, or do you just not like people? (Not a shot at you BTW)
It might be a good idea to know they are there if you need them (unruly pax, etc). UAL 232....remember that one? Good thing the FA knew of the DC10 Instructor in the back!

No shot taken. And you are correct, I just don't like people!! Valid point about help in the back, but the FA should know who the jumpseaters and non revvers are if the need should arise.

It just irks me to see some pilots so self righteous. give a fellow employee a hand. this industry is sticking it to us from all side, don't be one of the pr1ks.

Agreed! But don't forget our own airline unions as well (alpo) they have been screwing us for the last 7 years!

 

[waka]

No shot taken. And you are correct, I just don't like people!! Valid point about help in the back, but the FA should know who the jumpseaters and non revvers are if the need should arise.

Fair enough. However, please know that you're desire for zero contact with j/s'ers and nonrevs is unique so please show due courtesy if a j/s'er is following standard etiquette and introduces him or herself.

 

[McNugget]

Hi FA's, Im a Captain with a 121 airline and it would be nice that if FA's are jumpseating (even if its cabin only), to say hi to one of the crew members when they come onboard. You are crewmembers just like pilots - show ID, and jumpseat form to one of the crew members when you come on board as a courtesy for traveling for free (or nearly free). There is an airline out there (cough AA cough) where their airline training doesn't state this to them and they just casually stroll on board and have a seat. Pilots notice this and do not appreciate it.

However, I'm not saying all FA's do this - just from my experience, I have seen this happen on multiple flights.

You *************************. If they don't show the proper respect, just kick them off. ********************ing stewardesses think they run the show, nowadays.

 

[Metro752]

Suggestion:

No teeth please.

 

[McNugget]

Most of them don't even have their real teeth, anyway.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Wouldn't the B1900 HAVE a jumpseat?

It is a required crew of 2, and if an FAA guy is doing a checkride, or a linecheck, there would need to be 3 spots in the cockpit???

cliff
YIP

 

[Thedude]

Hi!

Wouldn't the B1900 HAVE a jumpseat?

It is a required crew of 2, and if an FAA guy is doing a checkride, or a linecheck, there would need to be 3 spots in the cockpit???

cliff
YIP

Nope. I have never seen a 19 seater that has a jumpseat. When I did my Fed ride in the Metro, he sat in seat 1A (which is behind the bulkhead) and was plugged into the comm panel. If he had any questions he would come to the cockpit kneel between the two seats.