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I can understand some guys feeling slighted by the jumseaters not introducing themselves but personally, I don't want to be bothered by them actually. I frown upon passengers whether jumpseating or non-reving, coming into the cockpit. Just more people I don't want to talk to that I then am required to. Just my opinion.
It's not THAT much more work, or do you just not like people? (Not a shot at you BTW)
It might be a good idea to know they are there if you need them (unruly pax, etc). UAL 232....remember that one? Good thing the FA knew of the DC10 Instructor in the back!
 
not really true

I have personally put FA's in the cockpit JS for travel.
the Gom( fom for others) states that there are a list of people allowed. then at the end it basically state any one with the concurrence of the Captain and a member of Upper Management.
so when the time is need I whip out the cell phone make 2 calls get a fax sent to the gate and were out of there.
Why is it so hard for people to want to help others?
Or maybe the questions should be , why do we as pilots give up so quick when it time to helps others?
"Oh I am sorry your not on the list" good luck else
where. when One could say hey dave don't you have one of those buddy passes you never use for this guy.

It just irks me to see some pilots so self righteous.
give a fellow employee a hand. this industry is sticking it to us from all side, don't be one of the pr1ks.
 
It's not THAT much more work, or do you just not like people? (Not a shot at you BTW)
It might be a good idea to know they are there if you need them (unruly pax, etc). UAL 232....remember that one? Good thing the FA knew of the DC10 Instructor in the back!

No shot taken. And you are correct, I just don't like people!! Valid point about help in the back, but the FA should know who the jumpseaters and non revvers are if the need should arise.

vtwo said:
It just irks me to see some pilots so self righteous. give a fellow employee a hand. this industry is sticking it to us from all side, don't be one of the pr1ks.

Agreed! But don't forget our own airline unions as well (alpo) they have been screwing us for the last 7 years!
 
No shot taken. And you are correct, I just don't like people!! Valid point about help in the back, but the FA should know who the jumpseaters and non revvers are if the need should arise.

Fair enough. However, please know that you're desire for zero contact with j/s'ers and nonrevs is unique so please show due courtesy if a j/s'er is following standard etiquette and introduces him or herself.
 
Hi FA's, Im a Captain with a 121 airline and it would be nice that if FA's are jumpseating (even if its cabin only), to say hi to one of the crew members when they come onboard. You are crewmembers just like pilots - show ID, and jumpseat form to one of the crew members when you come on board as a courtesy for traveling for free (or nearly free). There is an airline out there (cough AA cough) where their airline training doesn't state this to them and they just casually stroll on board and have a seat. Pilots notice this and do not appreciate it.

However, I'm not saying all FA's do this - just from my experience, I have seen this happen on multiple flights.

You *************************. If they don't show the proper respect, just kick them off. ********************ing stewardesses think they run the show, nowadays.
 
Most of them don't even have their real teeth, anyway.
 
Hi!

Wouldn't the B1900 HAVE a jumpseat?

It is a required crew of 2, and if an FAA guy is doing a checkride, or a linecheck, there would need to be 3 spots in the cockpit???

cliff
YIP
 
Hi!

Wouldn't the B1900 HAVE a jumpseat?

It is a required crew of 2, and if an FAA guy is doing a checkride, or a linecheck, there would need to be 3 spots in the cockpit???

cliff
YIP

Nope. I have never seen a 19 seater that has a jumpseat. When I did my Fed ride in the Metro, he sat in seat 1A (which is behind the bulkhead) and was plugged into the comm panel. If he had any questions he would come to the cockpit kneel between the two seats.
 

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