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Anyone at Pinnacle care to help me understand the captain mentorship program? my questions are as follows:

If I have 2700 TT (lots of turbine and some corporate jet) and came to Pinnacle how soon can I see upgrade.

Even with the seniority, would I still have to wait to upgrade behind lets say a 1000TT time FO?

lets say I start as an FO and after 1 year I up grade through the mentorship program do I get 1st or 2nd year captain pay.

Thanks for the responses.
 
Sounds to me like he doesn't work for Pinnacle (yet).

Is Pinnacle still doing the "mostly" street captain thing? Or is that overwith now that the industry is falling like a rock?
 
Sounds to me like he doesn't work for Pinnacle (yet).

Is Pinnacle still doing the "mostly" street captain thing? Or is that overwith now that the industry is falling like a rock?

I read his post again, and I think you're right. The street CA is over (based on the last award) most junior CA on the last award was about May-June 06 hire.
 
Anyone at Pinnacle care to help me understand the captain mentorship program? my questions are as follows:

If I have 2700 TT (lots of turbine and some corporate jet) and came to Pinnacle how soon can I see upgrade.

Even with the seniority, would I still have to wait to upgrade behind lets say a 1000TT time FO?

lets say I start as an FO and after 1 year I up grade through the mentorship program do I get 1st or 2nd year captain pay.

Thanks for the responses.

Are you from Gulfstream Academy?:eek:
 
They're hiring street Captains for the Metro at Pinnacle?
 
These are the current upgrade requirements:

Regular minumums
3500 TT, 2000 Multi, 1000 Turbine

Reduceable to without the mentor program:
2500 TT, 1500 Multi, 500 Turbine

Reduceable to with the mentor program:
2000 TT, 1500 Multi, 500 Turbine

Also you must have a minimum of 1800 hours before starting the mentor program.

Hopefully this clears the confusion. Keep in mind Pinnacle can change the requirements at any time. Also Pinnacle is not currently hiring street captains. If you're lucky you can upgrade shortly after FO training(they say you need 100 hours minimum as FO before upgrade), but if we have some kind of slow-down, consolidation or worse then you might be sitting in the right seat a while. Things change fast!
 
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I read his post again, and I think you're right. The street CA is over (based on the last award) most junior CA on the last award was about May-June 06 hire.

The last vacancy (08-06) had four CRJ-200 captain positions unfilled. Three for DTW and one for MEM.
 
Does this include, briefing on how to make the 410 club?
PBR
 
The last vacancy (08-06) had four CRJ-200 captain positions unfilled. Three for DTW and one for MEM.


Does that mean that the last upgrade class they ran was last August? If there were 4 unfilled positions in it, why haven't they run a class since?
 
Does that mean that the last upgrade class they ran was last August? If there were 4 unfilled positions in it, why haven't they run a class since?

Classes for this vacancy aren't until July.
 
Anyone at Pinnacle care to help me understand the captain mentorship program? my questions are as follows:

If I have 2700 TT (lots of turbine and some corporate jet) and came to Pinnacle how soon can I see upgrade.

Even with the seniority, would I still have to wait to upgrade behind lets say a 1000TT time FO?

lets say I start as an FO and after 1 year I up grade through the mentorship program do I get 1st or 2nd year captain pay.

Thanks for the responses.
what the hell is a metorship?
 
Does that mean that the last upgrade class they ran was last August? If there were 4 unfilled positions in it, why haven't they run a class since?

No, 08 is the year, -06 is the vacancy number for the year.
 
These are the current upgrade requirements:


Reduceable to with the mentor program:
2000 TT, 1500 Multi, 500 Turbine

Also you must have a minimum of 1800 hours before starting the mentor program.

I believe the Mentor Program requires 1,000 w/PCL
 
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The final is out and the total is 4.
 
where are you finding the final? its not on the company website...let me know i am trying to figure out if I get dtw or stay in mem
 
they say you need 100 hours minimum as FO before upgrade[/I]), but if we have some kind of slow-down, consolidation or worse then you might be sitting in the right seat a while. Things change fast!


Some kind of slow-down? Where have you been the last 2 months???
 
Anyone at Pinnacle care to help me understand the captain mentorship program?

I don't think the company knows exactly how it works.. If you interview, don't listen to what they tell you..

There are 2 groups of people who care about the mentor program.. The mentor captains and the mentorees.. We are shoorrrt on mentor captains and I've only met 2 or 3 guys who did the program..

I only know anything about it because I was told in the interview, I could do the mentor program, which in truth, I guess I COULD but I'd have to get the prereq of 1300 company time before I did..


If I have 2700 TT (lots of turbine and some corporate jet) and came to Pinnacle how soon can I see upgrade.

In theory..

You could upgrade @ 3000TT with 500 in type.. So, you'd be at 3200TT before you upgraded..


Even with the seniority, would I still have to wait to upgrade behind lets say a 1000TT time FO?

If he meets the time and he is senior to you, yeh, you have to wait behind him...

lets say I start as an FO and after 1 year I up grade through the mentorship program do I get 1st or 2nd year captain pay.

Well.. Once you hit your 2nd year, you get 2nd year pay.. regardless of what seat your in..

The mentor program is a bit misleading, and I think it's mainly because many people do not know how it works..

You have to have 1300 PINNACLE time before you are even able to partake in the mentorship program..

With 2700TT, the mentorship would be a waste for you..

If you showed up on the property tomorrow the quickest you'd seen an upgrade would be at 3200TT..

Things are "slowing down" here.. However, the last vacancy as others have shown, had unfilled slots..


Someone posted the mins..

3500TT is the "min."
This can be reduced to 3000 with 500 in type.. 2500 with 1000 in type..
 
I don't think the company knows exactly how it works.. If you interview, don't listen to what they tell you..

There are 2 groups of people who care about the mentor program.. The mentor captains and the mentorees.. We are shoorrrt on mentor captains and I've only met 2 or 3 guys who did the program..

I only know anything about it because I was told in the interview, I could do the mentor program, which in truth, I guess I COULD but I'd have to get the prereq of 1300 company time before I did..




In theory..

You could upgrade @ 3000TT with 500 in type.. So, you'd be at 3200TT before you upgraded..




If he meets the time and he is senior to you, yeh, you have to wait behind him...



Well.. Once you hit your 2nd year, you get 2nd year pay.. regardless of what seat your in..

The mentor program is a bit misleading, and I think it's mainly because many people do not know how it works..

You have to have 1300 PINNACLE time before you are even able to partake in the mentorship program..

With 2700TT, the mentorship would be a waste for you..

If you showed up on the property tomorrow the quickest you'd seen an upgrade would be at 3200TT..

Things are "slowing down" here.. However, the last vacancy as others have shown, had unfilled slots..


Someone posted the mins..

3500TT is the "min."
This can be reduced to 3000 with 500 in type.. 2500 with 1000 in type..


At 2700 TT the program would be a waste of time since the captain has approx 1500 TT.

Theres actually captains at Pinnacle? Thought they all bailed?

Relax, joke.
 
What exactly is different about "Pinnacle Time" than RJ time at other carriers?

The reduction is based on time at Pinnacle. A CRJ is still a CRJ, but flows, profiles, and procedures are different by every regional. Pinnacle will be different from Comair, Comair will be different from Eagle etc. etc.

Frankly, I like the idea of Pinnacle time. I've flown with one Comair guy who came here as a street Captain, and then proceeded to do things like [and I quote] "this is how we did it at Comair." That's great sir, but now you're at Pinnacle, so get with the program.
 
Frankly, I like the idea of Pinnacle time. I've flown with one Comair guy who came here as a street Captain, and then proceeded to do things like [and I quote] "this is how we did it at Comair." That's great sir, but now you're at Pinnacle, so get with the program.


Was is a big guy who wears the Hat?
 
with 3500tt you only have to do 100 hours in the right seat and then you can try for a capt spot...they are filling quickly usually there are about 2-10 new hire capt slots available every month with exceptions. and for everyone who knocks on 9e...if you live in or near base and come here hoping for upgrade but not depending on it, then it is a great place to work. I have had a lot of days off and the pay is not super, yet I my second year pay is hopefully about to become 57 bucks an hour
 
Some kind of slow-down? Where have you been the last 2 months???

Pinnacle hasn't slowed hiring at all yet; however, I've heard we go back to a class every two weeks soon instead of every week. Also, while seniority isn't moving up as quick anymore we are still understaffed on the captain-side. This is what happens when 90% of the folks you hire don't even have enough time to rent a C172. They take several years to hit upgrade mins.
 
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