Bring back Regulation

[buxflyr]

I said it last year and I will say it again. Its going to be the only way to save this industry if oil continues to rise.

 

[711-24-7]

As much as I agree with you, I don't think it will ever happen......Good Luck to all of us!!!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

It only took 30 years for us to start begging for RE-regulation!

Oh woah is me!

 

[Flybywire44]

Writing your senator will to more than fluffing this forum.

 

[Jmoney]

What Carter left us with is a mess.....

It is simply a failure, by all accounts.... You can't attract investors to put their bucks in an industry that continuously and consistently loses money as much an airlines do. Something will have to happen or the industry will collapse.

-Here is a hint:

-Obama is not the answer-Communism never works!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

Writing your senator will to more than fluffing this forum.

I totally believe you but I would love to PM you what my senator sent me as a reply to the CREW-PASS mass mailing!

It'll make your head assplode!

 

[centralpilot]

I totally believe you but I would love to PM you what my senator sent me as a reply to the CREW-PASS mass mailing!

It'll make your head assplode!

My senator's response was pretty disappointing as well.

 

[Butters]

There is regulation. It's called bankruptcy.

Maybe the government shouldn't keep proping up companies that have proven they can't run themselves.

This is an industry where companies will eat themselves in the hope they can starve off the competition. Problem is, new competition always comes up just long enough to make the big airlines eat themselves more.

Yes, the goverment either needs to jump all in or stay completely out. What they are doing now is just prolonging the pain.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

There is regulation. It's called bankruptcy.

Maybe the government shouldn't keep proping up companies that have proven they can't run themselves.

This is an industry where companies will eat themselves in the hope they can starve off the competition. Problem is, new competition always comes up just long enough to make the big airlines eat themselves more.

Yes, the goverment either needs to jump all in or stay completely out. What they are doing now is just prolonging the pain.

Wanna go to Bennigan's?

 

[Flybywire44]

I totally believe you but I would love to PM you what my senator sent me as a reply to the CREW-PASS mass mailing!

It'll make your head assplode!

cool

 

[buxflyr]

Airlines are going to start asking the Government for help soon... just like after 9/11. Wasn't there billions paid out then?

 

[PCL_128]

Airlines are going to start asking the Government for help soon... just like after 9/11. Wasn't there billions paid out then?

Most loans were denied by the scumbag Bush administration. Even a loan to UAL, which lost airplanes and crewmembers in the 9/11 attacks, was denied its ATSB loan.

 

[ROSWELL41]

Most loans were denied by the scumbag Bush administration. Even a loan to UAL, which lost airplanes and crewmembers in the 9/11 attacks, was denied its ATSB loan.

The government has no place in bailing out any private enterprise. Bailing out failing companies just prolongs the pain. I hope no bail outs come this time around.

 

[Soverytired]

I said it last year and I will say it again. Its going to be the only way to save this industry if oil continues to rise.

Specifics please.

"Regulation" is rather broad, and I'd hate to give any politician a license to do anything.

 

[PCL_128]

The government has no place in bailing out any private enterprise.

They do when government incompetence directly led to the destruction of four airliners and the deaths of their crews, and then an entire industry economic collapse.

 

[PCL_128]

Specifics please.

"Regulation" is rather broad, and I'd hate to give any politician a license to do anything.

Specifics: a complete return to the regulated system before Alfred Kahn got involved under the Carter administration. A reinstatement of the CAB, complete with fare and route authority. No new airline entrants.

 

[ROSWELL41]

Specifics: a complete return to the regulated system before Alfred Kahn got involved under the Carter administration. A reinstatement of the CAB, complete with fare and route authority. No new airline entrants.

Pie in the sky. The government should not mettle in the private sector. Less government intrusion is the key - not more. The best thing the government could do for the airlines is let the invisible hand take its course. If a free market is left to run its course, it truly will find an equilibrium. To date we have not had a free market in any way shape or form.

I find it ironic that you, a pilot for a low cost carrier, would favor a return to regulation. In the previously regulated industry your company would not have existed.

 

[HalinTexas]

Specifics: a complete return to the regulated system before Alfred Kahn got involved under the Carter administration. A reinstatement of the CAB, complete with fare and route authority. No new airline entrants.

You might as well add a 30-40% job reduction system wide as redundancies and unprofitable routes are eliminated.

Don't forget to include the economic collapse of small to medium sized cities that lose all or most of their airline service. Businesses close up and move out. Tourism dies up.

Next, it should be fun to watch all those people in congress and those "airline managers" arrested for graft and racketeering as they try to "acquire" influence on capitol hill.

And lastly. I'm sure you'll be happy as your airfares increase 20%, or so, overnight for an advanced purchase fare as dictated by some unelected official that would determine the "fare market value" of the ticket. Don't forget the boarding "tax" that would be levied to make sure that whatever airlines are left get "support" from the gubmint to ensure service. And, you know that money will disappear in the greater budget for some unknown reason.

Capitalism would work better if left unfettered. Let the weak die and be eaten by the rest. You can blame Pelosi, and Boxer for that as they couldn't stand KSFO getting any less busy. They're the leaders in making sure that UAL stays (stayed) aloft. Feel free to blame the Repubs too. They're just as guilty. I remember seeing Sen. Kay Bailey and the Cong. from Ennis/Waxahatchee (forgot his name), both GOP, publicly lobbying against the repeal of the Wright amendment. Wanna know why? AMR was in their pockets with campaign donations.

Go back to school and learn some economics.

 

[PCL_128]

All of these doomsday scenarios are frickin' hilarious. This industry worked beautifully under a regulated system. Since deregulation, smaller markets have lost service, service in other markets has been downgraded to these godforsaken replacement jets, and customer service has fallen through the floor. Neither the consumer nor the employee have benefited. Stop worshiping at the alter of Ayn Rand and look at reality.

 

[Tim47SIP]

What Carter left us with is a mess.....

It is simply a failure, by all accounts.... You can't attract investors to put their bucks in an industry that continuously and consistently loses money as much an airlines do. Something will have to happen or the industry will collapse.

-Here is a hint:

-Obama is not the answer-Communism never works!

Carter left us a lot more than the airlines in a mess. Just about every thing that idiot did, we are paying the piper now. BRAC and Panama were absolute disasters. The agreement we had with the Panamanian Government would absolutely boil the average citizens blood whcih is why it wasn't public.