Anybody sick on MAY 31/JUNE 1/2

[Mentor]

Anybody want to show who still holds the key to managements success? I am all about keeping a pilots job and showing them who is responsible for lining their pockets? I need some support...

 

[McNugent]

which airline?

 

[Mentor]

I am saying all the regionals...we are the bottom line for a lot of majors making money. Cut us out and see where your podunk airports are gonna get serviced. I am tired of us being the chopping block for managements fumbles. We are integral to the entire operation no matter what regional you are at...
I hope I can get some people to join in on this and make a mark across the regional industry...this is grassroots here but if we can get the word out we can make a mark.

 

[Going2Baja]

I'm all for a National sick day. ALL airlines, Regional and Major. Let's run this up the flagpole and see who's in. I'll do it!

Baja.

 

[Mentor]

It would be great to get support on this. It would be the ultimate one-two to throw off thousands of flights. If you guys have union websites please post to get this out there see if we can get the support of the majority. We are all the sudden fat everywhere on pilots because of economy, gas, age 65, etc. But management everywhere loves the stagnation because little can get accomplished within pilot groups because of the bargaining chips are no longer there. We are quickly forgotten that we are the key to this industry because WE ARE COMPLETION FACTOR, WE ARE ON TIME PERFORMANCE, WE ARE REVENUE...without PILOTS management is running a marathon on one leg. Please support ground-roots and get the word spread.

 

[WalterSobchak]

I'm not going to knock your grassroots movement...but you do realize that things like this gain you no favor or sympathy with the flying public and the legislators who you may need to support you later on, right?

 

[Going2Baja]

This also can't be posted on Union sites as the union can have no play in this plan. Courts have fined large $$ for less. Be very careful and possible plan through PM.

Baja.

 

[Mentor]

What have they done in recent years to back your statement...They don't care about us.nJust give it a chance and see what happens. Think of all the official business that government people fly that will be unable to make it to their destination because of this...it might even wake up the legislators to show how powerful we really are to the nations infrastructure. Try driving from Cali to D.C. I will formally apologize to everyone on the 3rd if this didn't cause a ripple industry wide. What would really be a great date to do this is the week prior to Congress going back into session...everyone has to get back to DC right???

 

[Mentor]

Baja...was to quick to write UNION WEBSITE and not think of those ramifications...I agree...but any other way to get the word out would be beneficial.

 

[AsaLossPaywAlpa]

I know ASA pilots won't be in on this. As noticed on my past posts from over 2yrs ago. I wanted to have fishing/hunting day back then.

ASA pilots should be working on the next contract, now. (IN saying next contract, I'm saying we should be already 2yrs + in the "new" contract and currently working on the next one).:smash:

 

[buscap]

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[Sawmill]

Im honestly not trying to fan the flames here but for all those who dont like their job, do what I did: quit and find/create a job that makes you happy. Its quite simple...just write down all the pros and cons of your current situation then make a decision.
Ok, that said, let the bloodletting begin.

 

[BOX OFFICE]

What do you hope to accomplish with a national sick out? Look around at the economy and tell me such a juvenile prank is really going to do anything but bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[say again]

Isn't something like this tried every year, and to no avail.

 

[DGdaPilot]

APA pilots at AA were sued for tens of millions for a promoted job action just like this. That's why you won't see this on a union site, Mentor.

 

[Flywrite]

To play Devil's Advocate for a minute, how would you all feel if all the airlines decided that they were going to show the pilot's who was in charge by sending paychecks out a day late?

Screwing over millions of travellers isnt going to win any sympathy, and posting your plans for this kind of thing on a public forum is a pretty dumbass thing to do in an age where your info can be subpoenad pretty easily.

 

[Max Q]

I'm in. Let's also boycott Exxon/Mobile for one day and cripple the entire universe for light-years to come.

-Brett

 

[PA44Jockey]

Hey, just think of the fuel savings if we didn't fly for a day. Not just pointed at managements, but maybe OPEC would feel it!

 

[Mentor]

I am all about stirring the pot...maybe if some of you that are against it would grow some balls and help out maybe some if this would hold some merit...

 

[Mentor]

Now, any people ready to join in would be great.

 

[Sawmill]

I am all about stirring the pot...maybe if some of you that are against it would grow some balls and help out maybe some if this would hold some merit...

Since I am no longer an airline pilot, Ill do my part for your cause and not fly those days...we'll show those bastages!

 

[TheInsider]

A very mature idea! Maybe pilots like you are the ones lowering the bar: those w.out professionalism and integrity. I think you should ponder some other ways to get your point across to the airline industry.

 

[Max Q]

Grow some balls? How was the pay when you applied for your job, Mentor?
(EDIT: I realize that I have no real evidence to prove low pay is among your list of motivations but since you have yet to specify WHO you work for and WHAT your motivation is, even after 5 or 6 long-winded posts, I'm only left to assume... yes that's ASSume... said it before you did...
You act like none of us has ever stepped up to management before. I can assure you, some of the folks on here have done far more damage to a company than calling into work sick for a day.

-Brett

 

[belchfire]

What do you hope to accomplish with a national sick out? Look around at the economy and tell me such a juvenile prank is really going to do anything but bite the hand that feeds you.

Passenger airlines have stayed in business over the past few years by handing millions to outgoing CEO's that have no stake in the survival of the company while lowering costs by cheating all levels of career employees-not just pilots!

In the last 30 years there has not been a successful contract negotiation for crewmembers-ie one that gives raises that would meet or exceed the rate of inflation. (Comair came very close, but my understanding is that much of that has been given back.) If you are happy with that I'm sorry that you are willing to settle for less...I take it as a personal offense that the CEO's are making more while we make (are valued, in other words) less.

It is far past time for the airlines to be passing increased operating costs on to the consumer (where they belong) instead of taking from the bread and butter of the people that actually produce the product...and if the CEO's don't get their fat parachutes, well, too damm bad!

I have never recieved a satisfactory answer to the question "How can a bankrupt company afford to hand an outgoing incompetant nine million dollars?"

To answer your question directly-remind the head shed just who produces the product (which is the safe movement of aluminum tubing from point A to point B). They sure as hell don't, nor are they capable, current or qualified!

 

[10nCLR]

Anybody want to show who still holds the key to managements success? I am all about keeping a pilots job and showing them who is responsible for lining their pockets? I need some support...

Come on now, don't be egotistical. It's not just the pilots who hold the keys, but a collective group of employees within your airline. So until you have taken reservations, checked in passengers, offloaded, sorted, delivered and reloaded bags, tag carry-ons, replenished the lav juices and potable H20, dump a lav, stocked the galley, cleaned off gum from seats, vacuumed the cabin, wiped down the lav, supply an airstart, pushed the a/c off the gate, routinely doing C-checks, taking phone calls from crews with mx issues, producing a flight release, taking your sick calls, trying to find coverage for sick calls, manage a GDP out of a hub, undoing crew/ac swaps, work on avionics, fix an apu/ ac pack and change out a tire, take a 5 hr roadtrip to an outstation for a simple birdstrike inspection, rebooking pissed of passengers whose flight got cancelled, locate and deliver missed bags for pissed off customers, walk up and down the aisle delivering drinks/snacks and telling passengers constantly to turn off their electronics, seatbacks/ trays in upright positions, also, train new hires, pay the bills, the bills and more bills, manage an employee group, maintain a computer network system, keep mx records, route a/c into mx bases, prepare/send and recieve cargo, on and on, etc, etc, then you can come to me, The Almighty Captain Kool-Aid and say, "I am the precious egotistical yurtle the turtle pilot who holds the keys for management's successes, me and only me." because I'm the king of the pond. But, until then, I will try to have an extra large ice cold glass of Kool-Aid waiting for you by that front porch swing. So see'ya there, cuz I know you're getting thirsty and hungry.

 

[XPOO]

^ this dude is almost as funny as ATL Crashpad these days!

 

[johnpeace]

ASA pilots should be working on the next contract, now. (IN saying next contract, I'm saying we should be already 2yrs + in the "new" contract and currently working on the next one).:smash:

We are working on our next contract, now.

You see it every day with our improved performance numbers.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Now, any people ready to join in would be great.

I have off those days so yeah, I'm in!

 

[AsaLossPaywAlpa]

We are working on our next contract, now.

You see it every day with our improved performance numbers.

Read and understand be for you post a reply.:smash:

 

[Jet41]

It will never work, not only is it illegal, the one way to p!ssoff the flying public is in the form of a "sick-out" legal or otherwise. You are greatly over estimating the power of a pilot group.