Cockpit reading

[stupidpilot]

You realize you're posting in the Corporate Forum, right? Given the time of your post I'll assume that you were drinking. You should probably head back to the Regional Forum and go play over there.

At the airlines I fully supported a little media diversion from time to time, in an effort to stay awake and sharp. Now I'm flying for an uber-rich owner of a $55M aircraft where the cockpit door is open above 10,000ft. He is NOT going to wander up front and see one or both of the pilots reading the Moscow Times or some ratty old Louis L'Amour novel. Not on my watch. Of course, we have the luxury of getting up and walking around the cabin when we need to in an effort to stay focused.

That's because you have a plane large enough that you can actually get up and walk around in. Do you think I'm dumb enough to let them see me reading?

 

[njcapt]

That's because you have a plane large enough that you can actually get up and walk around in. Do you think I'm dumb enough to let them see me reading?

Frankly, yes.

 

[ableone]

2dumb with regard to spelling on a message board, who cares. #2 When were at altitude if I get tired, I get out of my seat grab a drink/snack and see how everyone is doing. Look I'm not standing on a soap box and preaching my values. If my coworker sittin next to me wants to read a magazine then great. I dont have a beef with it and quite frankly none of our passengers have either.

In fact our pax are the most laid back group of people to work for. The question was raised about reading in the cockpit. I dont do it, I think its unprofessional. If you do, thats your thing.

With regard with your statement on me "really flying an X", yeah I really do fly an X, again who cares. If there's anything I can do to help validate what I fly please let me know.

So reading is unprofessional but walking around is not?

Do you fly your X above FL250?

Does the other pilot wear a mask while you are on your walkabouts?

Do you take these walks above FL410? FL510?

At least a magazine won't kill you.

 

[say again]

Ok people, get the friggin' sticks out of your a$$es!!! RELAX. I read-YES, and will continue to read.

BTW- directed at those who have a problem with reading in the cockpit.

 

[rumrnr78]

I remember a great "immediate action" checklist that was floating around ASA. It looked like it was culled from the QRH; anyway, the first item was, "USA Today: emergency stow"

Cheers- Rum

 

[Booker]

I just bring my crayons along and start coloring when the other guy won't let me read.

 

[CA1900]

I just bring my crayons along and start coloring when the other guy won't let me read.

"Don't bother me when I'm coloring!" :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlSx4O0rlDs
(wrong scene, I know)

 

[H2OK9]

I think a few of you "aces" ought to "lighten up Francis"! I think the jitbag that asked how many Fadecs are required to dispatch should take a friggin pill!!! are you kidding me? relax! be a pro but relax!

 

[say again]

I wish they had a more pilot friendly USA Today. What a pain in the a$$ to open, change the pages, etc. I do manage though.

 

[Say Again Over]

Ever see someone driving their car whilst reading a book? I don't read in the car, other than a checklist I don't read in the cockpit

I hope this is a joke, were not talking about on short final, were talking about cruise flight.

 

[stupidpilot]

Frankly, yes.

Frankly, you stink!

 

[Av8ing]

I think a few of you "aces" ought to "lighten up Francis"! I think the jitbag that asked how many Fadecs are required to dispatch should take a friggin pill!!! are you kidding me? relax! be a pro but relax!

sorry guys, I just started X school. Never been called a jitbag before. My apologies.

 

[SNAFU22]

question for SNAFU,
When you are up wandering around the cabin is the other pilot on O2, also please try to explain how reading a USA today in cruise flight at 410 under positive control is any more unprofessional or un-safe than wondering around in the back making yourself a snack.

Assuming worse case scenario, if something happens the guy reading the paper puts it down and flies, while you would have to sprint to the front, strap in and try to figure out what is going on since you have been out of the "loop" with your situational awareness.

Not trying to throw stones just trying to follow your logic. It is unprofessional to read while sitting straped in at the controls monitoring ACT, but stretching your legs in the back to occupy your mind is OK?

You have a valid point, I'm not perfect. I think you already know the answer whether one of us is on O2. Me still thinks reading the paper portrays a bad example. Sure many people will disagree with me.

Look I don't think my view is better than the guy who wants to read in the cockpit. It's my own personal standard I set for myself. If you or anybody else wants to read, then read on. If I get out of my seat to grab a pop or something, I guess I can be faulted for that as well.

You can please some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. You cant please all the people all of the time.

Good Times!

 

[whymeworry?]

You realize you're posting in the Corporate Forum, right? Given the time of your post I'll assume that you were drinking. You should probably head back to the Regional Forum and go play over there.

At the airlines I fully supported a little media diversion from time to time, in an effort to stay awake and sharp. Now I'm flying for an uber-rich owner of a $55M aircraft where the cockpit door is open above 10,000ft. He is NOT going to wander up front and see one or both of the pilots reading the Moscow Times or some ratty old Louis L'Amour novel. Not on my watch. Of course, we have the luxury of getting up and walking around the cabin when we need to in an effort to stay focused.

Your paranoid. I flew corporate for years. Its no big deal. Does Mr. Owner want me falling asleep on the arrival into EGGW?

Grow a sack.

 

[LegacyDriver]

I flew with a guy some time ago who wigged out because I was looking through the QRH. I've always made a habit of reviewing the QRH, especially after my 353rd trip to the East Coast and back, just to stay on top of it.

"Put that up."

"Why?" I asked.

"It makes the passengers nervous."

Hmmmmm....

"Well how nervous will they be if I forget this stuff in an emergency?"

*eyeroll*

What a dweeb. At least I'll never fly with him again.

 

[Midnight Flyer]

I flew with a guy some time ago who wigged out because I was looking through the QRH. I've always made a habit of reviewing the QRH, especially after my 353rd trip to the East Coast and back, just to stay on top of it.

"Put that up."

"Why?" I asked.

"It makes the passengers nervous."

Hmmmmm....

"Well how nervous will they be if I forget this stuff in an emergency?"

*eyeroll*

What a dweeb. At least I'll never fly with him again.

Personally, I read in the cockpit all the time. We have a cockpit door, which is always closed, so it's never an issue anyway. On the other hand, I probably wouldn't read if I had anyone on the j/s, for example, or was in anybody's direct view.
It's not so much because I'm frightened to "make the passengers nervous" or being viewed as unprofessional or anything like that.
Let's say you have an incident or accident of some sort. In this f'd up world of frivolous lawsuits, I wouldn't put it past some idiot passenger to make some stupid accusation that he saw the pilots reading and his team of lawyers are coming after you for negligence or some s**t.
I heard a story about some airline passenger (who happened to be a private pilot) that upon landing, approached the crew and accused them of exceeding 250 under 10,000. It turns out he had a handheld GPS with him. I guess that private pilot doesn't understand the difference between groundspeed and indicated airspeed.
Call me paranoid, but there always seems to be somebody looking for any reason to complain about a pilot.

 

[ksu_aviator]

Guys:

None of us are perfect. However, we all need to keep in mind what is safe and what isn't...which we all do. If one person is monitoring the aircraft...what is the other person supposed to do? How many pilots do you need to watch the autopilot as it follows the FMS? Granted, one pilot should always monitor the aircraft. Everyone here agrees with that, because I know that not one pilot here will admit (with any seriousness) that he/she walked to the back of the aircraft to play cards with the other pilot.

At least you guys have another pilot to monitor the aircraft. Can you imagine how strong my bladder has to be to fly my aircraft for 5 or 6 hours non-stop?

Tip: Never drink more than you can fit into a single water bottle

 

[G100driver]

I thought a lear had a lav?

 

[Rook]

Flawless Victory.

Nice!

This is one of the best threads I've read in a while. I need to hang out in the corp section more often!:laugh:

 

[john cocktosen]

Personally, I read in the cockpit all the time. We have a cockpit door, which is always closed, so it's never an issue anyway. On the other hand, I probably wouldn't read if I had anyone on the j/s, for example, or was in anybody's direct view.
It's not so much because I'm frightened to "make the passengers nervous" or being viewed as unprofessional or anything like that.
Let's say you have an incident or accident of some sort. In this f'd up world of frivolous lawsuits, I wouldn't put it past some idiot passenger to make some stupid accusation that he saw the pilots reading and his team of lawyers are coming after you for negligence or some s**t.
I heard a story about some airline passenger (who happened to be a private pilot) that upon landing, approached the crew and accused them of exceeding 250 under 10,000. It turns out he had a handheld GPS with him. I guess that private pilot doesn't understand the difference between groundspeed and indicated airspeed.
Call me paranoid, but there always seems to be somebody looking for any reason to complain about a pilot.

What about using a portable electronic device below 10000.......that receives electronic signals. I would have told that dude to f off.