Delta Pilots Begin Vote

[MXAV8R]

Man you NWA guys are just so blind...sad

 

[nwaredtail]

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[DTW320]

Man you NWA guys are just so blind...sad

Dude, tomorrow you've been at DAL for 2 months. I've got Clif Bars in my flight bag with more seniority.

I see you're mainlining the Koolaide right out of the gate....sad

 

[nwaredtail]

Dude, tomorrow you've been at DAL for 2 months. I've got Clif Bars in my flight bag with more seniority.

I see you're mainlining the Koolaide right out of the gate....sad

Give him a break, there is no where for him to go but down or sideways. I understand his position. Sucks being junior.

 

[dtfl]

I don't work for NWA.

Then you obviously dont have the LOA paperwork with the real truth...so...GO AWAY.

 

[dtfl]

Dude, tomorrow you've been at DAL for 2 months. I've got Clif Bars in my flight bag with more seniority.

I see you're mainlining the Koolaide right out of the gate....sad

...and how many times have you used those idiotic words.."..you guys are throwing us under the bus!!"??

 

[General Lee]

Dude, tomorrow you've been at DAL for 2 months. I've got Clif Bars in my flight bag with more seniority.

I see you're mainlining the Koolaide right out of the gate....sad

The way we are hiring (or will be hiring later this year), he may be senior to you after the relative seniority integration.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[hockeypilot44]

The way we are hiring (or will be hiring later this year), he may be senior to you after the relative seniority integration.

Bye Bye--General Lee

The merger was announced April 14th. Anybody hired at Delta after that date will probably end up junior to every single NWA pilot if the lists actually end up getting integrated. This is a precedent from previous mergers. Usually the arbitrator doesn't even consider anyone hired after the merger date. This is just my opinion. NWA's last class was the first week of April.

 

[nwaredtail]

The merger was announced April 14th. Anybody hired at Delta after that date will probably end up junior to every single NWA pilot if the lists actually end up getting integrated. This is a precedent from previous mergers. Usually the arbitrator doesn't even consider anyone hired after the merger date. This is just my opinion. NWA's last class was the first week of April.

Get em General and Puff

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I'm pretty junior too... The furlough protection is just a bit prettier sounding garbage than what is already in there- and include my butt in there. So... blah blah.

Scope... it's the same thing as is currently had at both carriers- the only exception had to be made, ironically, for the NWA ERJ-175s.

Pay- well, it's something to hold us over if it becomes a long and drawn out thing. It's a bit better than our current contractual raises and we had dang well have a joint contract before then.

Equity- I can sell it the moment I get it... that is all that I care about, although it does tick me off how much more the senior guys are getting.


So what is the theme here? Money. The other stuff isn't any worse than the current contract... and it has some protections to make sure that our flying is protected if we end up having a joint operation while still under two different contracts.

 

[regionalcap]

I think there is too much talk about this LOA. Like it or not, it will probably pass. Let's focus on getting a good joint contract. Both sides need to put aside their differences and work on getting a solid contract. I'd gladly drink a :beer: with any NWA guy. Any idea when they will start negotiating?

 

[another cfii]

I'm pretty junior too... The furlough protection is just a bit prettier sounding garbage than what is already in there- and include my butt in there. So... blah blah.

Scope... it's the same thing as is currently had at both carriers- the only exception had to be made, ironically, for the NWA ERJ-175s.

Pay- well, it's something to hold us over if it becomes a long and drawn out thing. It's a bit better than our current contractual raises and we had dang well have a joint contract before then.

Equity- I can sell it the moment I get it... that is all that I care about, although it does tick me off how much more the senior guys are getting.


So what is the theme here? Money. The other stuff isn't any worse than the current contract... and it has some protections to make sure that our flying is protected if we end up having a joint operation while still under two different contracts.

I missed the roadshow, can anybody explain how the equity is gonna be divided among the ranks? I figure if it's evenly spread, it's about $25k for each of us.

 

[regionalcap]

I missed the roadshow, can anybody explain how the equity is gonna be divided among the ranks? I figure if it's evenly spread, it's about $25k for each of us.

The most senior guy will get 1.4 times what the most junior guy gets. It should be more than your figure. I read a news clip on yahoo yesterday that estimated a market cap of 15 billion (previously 17.7 billion). This would give the senior guy about 80,000 and the junior guy about 55,000. Roughly.

 

[General Lee]

The merger was announced April 14th. Anybody hired at Delta after that date will probably end up junior to every single NWA pilot if the lists actually end up getting integrated. This is a precedent from previous mergers. Usually the arbitrator doesn't even consider anyone hired after the merger date. This is just my opinion. NWA's last class was the first week of April.

I don't think it will happen like that. It will probably be merged after we actually merge the companies, by the end of the year possibly. If it takes months for you to agree to common sense, then you will be lower on the totem pole. I guess Anderson could say out loud "I want to merge with UPS by the year 2020.....". Would an arbitrator take that into account too? (the day he stated his intention to merge)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[nwaredtail]

I don't think it will happen like that. It will probably be merged after we actually merge the companies, by the end of the year possibly. If it takes months for you to agree to common sense, then you will be lower on the totem pole. I guess Anderson could say out loud "I want to merge with UPS by the year 2020.....". Would an arbitrator take that into account too? (the day he stated his intention to merge)


Bye Bye--General Lee

wow, another totally unrealistic, uneducated, untrue response from the General. Shocking. I guess every arbitration that has ever occurred will have no relevance on what happens at DAL/NWA