Don't forget gov't and management!

OK, along with alpa then we can cure them as well.
Who should go back? USAPA? I don't think they are advertising such an impossible task.
Recall, with USAPA you can't fix stupid... and that is just talking about East/West..
Well I think it would have to be usapa
Are you serious? Have you tried the website? Email?
Did not know that they had one.
no matter the paint job! Yeah! Let's make managment pay for it!
That is like buying a tool at Home Depot and expecting Lowes to accept it within their return policy!
Well no it is nothing like that....once you stop identifying yourself with a company and start identifying yourself with a union it will make sense.
No... actually... its just...not quite the same...
Stop assuming that as a pilot you somehow are more special than anyone else in any other trade because you are not.
If you build it ...... they will come?
Then lets get going.
Who is you? Me? Them? They?
Not going to bother. it was late.
Air Line Pilots Do Not Run Airlines!
Air Line Pilots Do Not Regulate!
Serious conflict of intrest and safety creditibility issues!!
Do you think that the type rating that I got from a guy who works for my airline is somehow not a conflict of interest.......The FAA does not issue type ratings anymore, the airlines do......less conflict of interest if the union was doing it then the company
I have a headace
try tylenol
Agreed! I think!
Maybe I should have included you as well.
Not a Hollywood style, one shot, one stroke, one hit solves all problems! And we lived happily ever after?
We are talking about a generation long journey here. You and I would most likely never see all the benefits of this new union.....
This might have to happen.
The union would negotiate pay rates, retirement contributions and insurance contributions with the ATA or whatever representative body they would use
But it doesn't.... every airline has different cost structures.
You are correct. Right now it does not and that is the problem. But it should all pay the same. And as far as different cost structures, so does every construction company but they can not use labor to balance that....
But they are not. How about this: If Al Queda was Christian. But they are not.
Construction company:for profit corporation
Airline company :for profit corporation
Al Queida :for profit organization that is attempting to make
their view of their world the
only view through subversion
and terror
Christians : for profit organization that
has been attempting to make
their view of the whole world
the only view through sub-
version and terror for at
least ten thousand years.
There is a guy like you who was in the electricians union... and he thinks we should change to be like the electrician unions.
And the Actors Guild....
And...
And....
Look... we are Air Line Pilots.. under the RLA. There is more working against us then the surface shows...
Ok, lets go with the electricians or the Actors Guild.
Do you realize that none of those groups negotiate at the corporation level...They negotiate at the industry level and so should we....And the RLA may need to go.......
Doesn't sound too convincing...
Not sure how long you've been doing this.... but its been talked about for decades.
At least a decade anyway. If you are wearing a uniform and a name tag you are blue collar and should be proud of that fact.
But if this was so easy... a carpenter could do it!