Go Jet Pilots no longer welcome on XJ?

[motch]

The jump seat is a privilege, not a right.

It is a privilege negotiated between two pilot groups/unions to allow one pilot to "jump seat" on another carrier for the purpose of getting back/forth to work.

If a pilot chooses to take up employment with a carrier that has no jump seat agreement with other carriers, so be it. Use to be that when a company was advertising for pilots, they would list proudly that they had jump seat agreements with x amount of airlines...

I welcome the fact that there are still pilot groups keeping up the battle. Thankyou all~

motch

 

[YODA]

Maybe this is why they do not feel the need to exercise proper jumpseat etiquette and stop by the front office and ask permission to ride and show credentials. Twice last month these guys darted by the flight deck straight to their seats and never even said hello. The second time it happened the flight attendant politely asked him to come up front and see us. When he did, in a very non-confrontational way we explained that it was company policy to check the credentials of any jumpseater and it was also a common courtesy to stop by and say a quick hello to the crew. This individual acted like he knew nothing about this, all new to him, he also admitted to flying on our carrier several times before. Interesting, I even gave him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was new and just learning the ropes. Wrong! after a check of his ID he had been there 9 months! I jumpseat on Skywest and Trans States occasionally and I always introduce myself to the FA and ask permission to see the crew. I always have ID, Medical, License in hand and ask permission to ride along. The last thing I want to do is make the pilot group I represent look bad because as it has already been stated on this thread, jumpseating in a privilege, not a right. I hope this helps anyone who might be confused on how jumpseating works.

 

[CX880]

Maybe this is why they do not feel the need to exercise proper jumpseat etiquette and stop by the front office and ask permission to ride and show credentials. Twice last month these guys darted by the flight deck straight to their seats and never even said hello. The second time it happened the flight attendant politely asked him to come up front and see us. When he did, in a very non-confrontational way we explained that it was company policy to check the credentials of any jumpseater and it was also a common courtesy to stop by and say a quick hello to the crew. This individual acted like he knew nothing about this, all new to him, he also admitted to flying on our carrier several times before. Interesting, I even gave him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was new and just learning the ropes. Wrong! after a check of his ID he had been there 9 months! I jumpseat on Skywest and Trans States occasionally and I always introduce myself to the FA and ask permission to see the crew. I always have ID, Medical, License in hand and ask permission to ride along. The last thing I want to do is make the pilot group I represent look bad because as it has already been stated on this thread, jumpseating in a privilege, not a right. I hope this helps anyone who might be confused on how jumpseating works.

A lot of the times when you jumpseat on the majors they don't really care about this. The latestet one, the CA waved me back to the cabin because he was too busy eating and listending to his Ipod to shake my hand. I find it that it's mostly a regional CA thing. Still you should go up to the CA and FO and introduce yourself.

 

[Kream926]

It never fails on this board... :laugh:

Its what? Oh, you mean "it's"? It's a contraction of "it" and "is"...


If you're going to play grammar Nazi, you better make sure you get it right yourself!

that's not as bad as they their and they're. same goes for your and you're

touche

 

[xjgearbtch]

Maybe this is why they do not feel the need to exercise proper jumpseat etiquette and stop by the front office and ask permission to ride and show credentials. Twice last month these guys darted by the flight deck straight to their seats and never even said hello. The second time it happened the flight attendant politely asked him to come up front and see us. When he did, in a very non-confrontational way we explained that it was company policy to check the credentials of any jumpseater and it was also a common courtesy to stop by and say a quick hello to the crew. This individual acted like he knew nothing about this, all new to him, he also admitted to flying on our carrier several times before. Interesting, I even gave him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was new and just learning the ropes. Wrong! after a check of his ID he had been there 9 months! I jumpseat on Skywest and Trans States occasionally and I always introduce myself to the FA and ask permission to see the crew. I always have ID, Medical, License in hand and ask permission to ride along. The last thing I want to do is make the pilot group I represent look bad because as it has already been stated on this thread, jumpseating in a privilege, not a right. I hope this helps anyone who might be confused on how jumpseating works.

WTF!!!!!!!! when you jumpseat you become a member of the crew. You must introduce yourself to the crew. I would have chewed him out, thrown his punk ass off the plane after I got the phone number for his jumpseat/pro stans chairmen at his "union" The privelage of a free ride is in exchange for adding another level of safety to the flight. The Sioux City crash is a prime example.

It doesn't matter if it's a 1900 or a 747. Do the right thing, have your Company ID, Medical, Pilot Cert all out before the Captain has to ask for it.

This is yet another example of GO Jet's "Pilots" who have no respect for the profession.

 

[YODA]

A lot of the times when you jumpseat on the majors they don't really care about this. The latestet one, the CA waved me back to the cabin because he was too busy eating and listending to his Ipod to shake my hand. I find it that it's mostly a regional CA thing. Still you should go up to the CA and FO and introduce yourself.

The most thorough inspection of my license, med, and company ID was by a Delta capt. so I do not think it is a "regional" thing but maybe an individual preference.

 

[nwa_contrails]

Maybe this is why they do not feel the need to exercise proper jumpseat etiquette and stop by the front office and ask permission to ride and show credentials. Twice last month these guys darted by the flight deck straight to their seats and never even said hello. The second time it happened the flight attendant politely asked him to come up front and see us. When he did, in a very non-confrontational way we explained that it was company policy to check the credentials of any jumpseater and it was also a common courtesy to stop by and say a quick hello to the crew. This individual acted like he knew nothing about this, all new to him, he also admitted to flying on our carrier several times before. Interesting, I even gave him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was new and just learning the ropes. Wrong! after a check of his ID he had been there 9 months! I jumpseat on Skywest and Trans States occasionally and I always introduce myself to the FA and ask permission to see the crew. I always have ID, Medical, License in hand and ask permission to ride along. The last thing I want to do is make the pilot group I represent look bad because as it has already been stated on this thread, jumpseating in a privilege, not a right. I hope this helps anyone who might be confused on how jumpseating works.

This has happened to me, too. Please tell me you kicked him off!

Way to go XJ, anything to make it harder for the scum of piloting is OK by me...

 

[Jack Mehoff]

In my new hire class we had a GOJets pilot, he said in his intro he worked for Trans States!! We all saw his old crew tag on his bag!! and it did'nt say TSA airlines!!

We had one is my class as well. He said he was "united express" we got to the bottom of it quickly and made him admit he was HOEjet. Fricken loser

 

[PCL_128]

A lot of the times when you jumpseat on the majors they don't really care about this. The latestet one, the CA waved me back to the cabin because he was too busy eating and listending to his Ipod to shake my hand. I find it that it's mostly a regional CA thing. Still you should go up to the CA and FO and introduce yourself.

Not true. Just because he waved you back doesn't mean that he didn't want you to stop in and say hello. It just means that he was busy having lunch. If you had just gone back and sat down without saying anything, he likely would have been pretty pissed when he saw you get off the airplane at the destination. Sometimes I didn't have time to have a conversation with a jumpseater and would just tell him to have a seat, but that doesn't mean that I didn't want him to stop by real quickly.

 

[The_Russian]

I will meet you at the monkey bars after school. Imma kick your butt. Oh yea, my Dad can beat up your Dad. Junior High all over again *eyeroll*
For the record, you are more than welcome on my plane but if ya wanna play these juvenile games..go ahead.

What you fail to realize is that this IS serious ******************** you are messing with. People's lives and contracts are not "my dad can beat up your dad" issues.

You stab your fellow pilots in the back, you will not be welcome in my airplane. Ever.

 

[Andrew_VT]

On mesaba flights doesn't the captain have to sign the jumpseat form and give the white copy to the gate agent and keep the yellow copy?

Why do we bother doing this if it isn't a big deal when a jumpseater 'sneaks' on without getting the signature?

 

[CX880]

Not true. Just because he waved you back doesn't mean that he didn't want you to stop in and say hello. It just means that he was busy having lunch. If you had just gone back and sat down without saying anything, he likely would have been pretty pissed when he saw you get off the airplane at the destination. Sometimes I didn't have time to have a conversation with a jumpseater and would just tell him to have a seat, but that doesn't mean that I didn't want him to stop by real quickly.

I'm not saying you should ignore the crew and take a seat. All I am pointing out in my 8 months of jumpseating, it's mostly regional CAs who are anal about jumpseaters, not all of them.

 

[AWACoff]

8 months? Can you give us any helpful tips about jumpseating? Thanks.

 

[A350]

And therein lies the problem.....

What construes "stabbing your fellow pilots in the back" is up to interpretation.....

What you had before was a "list" of pilots who had crossed picket lines. That was black and white. Now we have 1000's of interpretations of what a scab is or is not and the resulting chaos.

Have fun with that.....

A350

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

Maybe this is why they do not feel the need to exercise proper jumpseat etiquette and stop by the front office and ask permission to ride and show credentials. Twice last month these guys darted by the flight deck straight to their seats and never even said hello. The second time it happened the flight attendant politely asked him to come up front and see us. When he did, in a very non-confrontational way we explained that it was company policy to check the credentials of any jumpseater and it was also a common courtesy to stop by and say a quick hello to the crew. This individual acted like he knew nothing about this, all new to him, he also admitted to flying on our carrier several times before. Interesting, I even gave him the benefit of the doubt by assuming he was new and just learning the ropes. Wrong! after a check of his ID he had been there 9 months! I jumpseat on Skywest and Trans States occasionally and I always introduce myself to the FA and ask permission to see the crew.

Blows my mind. I had a GJ guy come aboard and announce that he was jumseating on us. I turned around to see who would be joking with me like that and there he stood, serious as a heart attack with his paperwork thrust in my chest. I looked over at my FO and asked if he'd talked to this guy yet. He said no, so I turned back to our visitor and said, "Uhhhhh..." as I grinned from ear to ear. He couldn't be serious, but there he stood with his paperwork, never offering his license, medical, or company ID. I asked as politely as I could, "If it's not too much of an inconvenience, could I see your ID and certificate? Pretty please?" I think he caught the hint, because he corrected himself and asked, "Oh! Um, I was wondering if I could jumpseat today," as he handed his stuff to me. I was so pleased that I taught him a new trick that I forgot to kick him off my plane for any of the obvious reasons (being w/ GoJets, being a total a-hole, or not offering his stuff when he checked in).

After he left, I felt like such an idiot for letting him by and asked if my FO would think less of me if I didn't bother removing him from the AC. He said he couldn't think any less of me, so I let it slide.

Just this once.

Shy