"Suspected Sleeping go! (Mesa) Pilots Fired"

[SkyW120]

Go Jet might be looking for 2 more pilots.

 

[Mr Wu]

This is from an email to the employees on 21 Feb from VP Corp Communications:
Fact: Three days prior to February 13 over-flight incident, the captain had a rest period of 14 hours and 55 minutes prior to commencement of his flight duty, two days prior he had a rest period of 14 hours 55 minutes and the night prior to the incident, his rest period was 14 hours and 53 minutes.

In the case of the first officer the rest periods on those same three days prior to the February 13 incident were 38 hours 52 minutes, 14 hours and 55 minutes and 14 hours 53 minutes respectively.

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Fact: Federal Aviation Regulations allow for a maximum duty day of 16 hours.
The average length of duty for the captain during the three days prior to February 13 was 8 hours 39 minutes.

The average length of duty for the first officer on the two days worked prior to February 13 was 9 hours and 6 minutes. Three days prior the first officer had a day off.
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Funny how they don't mention how long they had been on duty when the incident occurred.

 

[ohplease!]

Funny how they don't mention how long they had been on duty when the incident occurred.

I believe it was about 10am. How long could it have been since they started the duty day?

 

[Soverytired]

For something like this it does.

They won't be working in the passenger airline industry anymore.

Getting fired from any airline job isn't a good thing. And given the publicity around this, I'd agree that future passenger jobs in the US are going to be tough to come by.

However . . . I don't have all the facts; getting canned for nordo or improperly handling a no-radio situation is a whole different thing than falling asleep at the wheel.

Given their schedules, and the short length of the flight, IF they did fall asleep it's inexcusable, and the FAA is going to take their tickets. I just find that very difficult to believe.

 

[Poahi]

I just find that very difficult to believe.

Agreed.

Soon we will have cameras so the FAA can determine our eye lid position. Violations will be mailed directly to your home. Snore detectors will be powered by the battery BUS.

 

[rickair7777]

Agreed.

Soon we will have cameras so the FAA can determine our eye lid position. Violations will be mailed directly to your home. Snore detectors will be powered by the battery BUS.

Actually, the 787 has a very simple technical solution to keep pilots out of this flavor of hot water. Hopefully it will find it's way into all cockpits.

 

[Soverytired]

Actually, the 787 has a very simple technical solution to keep pilots out of this flavor of hot water. Hopefully it will find it's way into all cockpits.

Some kind of busy work alarm? Move a dial every "x" minutes or the plane gently tells you in dulcet tones to:

"WAKE UP!"

I think it's a pretty good idea as well. Especially for the long haul stuff (aka 787). As long as it's not logged somewhere so the chief pilot isn't calling . . .

 

[fly4surf]

Maybe hot COFFEE in the plane???

Wish mine had that.

 

[papanovember]

Some kind of busy work alarm? Move a dial every "x" minutes or the plane gently tells you in dulcet tones to:

"WAKE UP!"

I think it's a pretty good idea as well. Especially for the long haul stuff (aka 787). As long as it's not logged somewhere so the chief pilot isn't calling . . .

Actually it's an option on 757s 767s 777s, and possibly others. United has it on the above. After a certain amount of time with no interaction with the flight guidance panel a yellow "crew response" message appears on the EICAS. If nothing is done about it ie flicking the heading bug, a nice alarm goes off. I've seen this a couple of times while jumpseating.

 

[go!ng for broke]

Stacy Loe's News Report , More at six

Mesa/GO! pilots admitted being asleep after incident. Capt. had history of sleeping in cockpit. Next up @ 6pm, Drug test results.