Getting out of a training contract

[EMB Jockey]

Has anybody had any luck getting out of a training contract? I have an opportunity for a nice corporate job and was wondering how strong these agreements are. Any info would be great. I know I can pay my way out but am looking not to!

 

[FORESTGUMP]

Has anybody had any luck getting out of a training contract? I have an opportunity for a nice corporate job and was wondering how strong these agreements are. Any info would be great. I know I can pay my way out but am looking not to!

typical punk. Do something origional; live up to your f'n obligations that YOU agreed to. then go get your really cool corp. job.

 

[knewhigher]

Try to settle for less. Either way they will probably go after you.

 

[aa5b]

Buckle up, this should be fun

 

[TheInsider]

A Flexjet pilot was sued by his employer (Flexjet) for failing to adhere to the training contract as he quit 18 months into a 24-month contract. Its more to the story so either google it or read about it on p.40 of the March issue of Aviation International News or ainonline.com
Flexjet did not win the lawsuit so a precedence has been set.

 

[Trash8Mofo]

typical punk. Do something origional; live up to your f'n obligations that YOU agreed to. then go get your really cool corp. job.

I don't know how to politely put this...but you are retarded. Why doesn't DL, UA, or CX has training contracts? because they don't worry about you leaving. The regionals pay people dirt cheap, knowing that you WILL leave within three years. They budgeted the turn-around cost! But the math works out to be cheaper to keep training than to pay you respectable wages. So what I am saying is, the regionals are trying to have it both ways. If they want to retain people..PAY THEM. If they don't, expect them to leave.

 

[BoilerUP]

Has anybody had any luck getting out of a training contract? I have an opportunity for a nice corporate job and was wondering how strong these agreements are. Any info would be great. I know I can pay my way out but am looking not to!

Try negotiating for your new employer to pay some or all of what you would owe for breaking the contract...you might be surprised what you can negotiate...

I'm guessing you are Mesa/Freedom? If so, the legal argument could always be made that they failed to uphold their side of the agreement (similar to the argument and now precedent the Flex pilot set).

Or you could negotiate directly with your employer for a pro-rated contract and pay that amount...if its a good 91 gig you'll likely make more than enough to cover it.

 

[Raoul Duke]

pull out your checkbook write a check and avoid the lawsuit that you will lose.

 

[TheInsider]

I recommend you pay or stay. If you do leave and they come after you they will not win the lawsuit (see my previous post) or even bother trying. What you can do is to do the right thing as the aviation community is very small. Got my drift?

 

[masedogg19]

I recommend you pay or stay. If you do leave and they come after you they will not win the lawsuit (see my previous post) or even bother trying. What you can do is to do the right thing as the aviation community is very small. Got my drift?

Not bashing but that is kind of a contradictory statement......although the precedent has been set, that Flexjet guy spent a rediculous amount of money in that lawsuit....hopefully it wouldn't take that

+1 to what Boiler said, if it's a good company and they really want you, they'll help you....I actually know a guy that just did this (it was part 135)....he got a new and much better job offer about 3 months after getting a new type....the new company paid off his old contract and didn't even make him cover any of the costs

Does anyone else think Forrest is an angry little man who is either a.) stuck in his own training contract at a company he doesn't like or b.) has such a wonderful attitude (as shown by his post) that he can't get that cushy, corporate job he really wants......it might even be both of those

 

[Indy319FA]

Indentured Servitude was made illegal in this country long ago. The question is whether it is cheaper to pay what you owe or the legal fees to defend yourself.

While instructing, the owner of the flight school where I was working and I talked about this. He also owned a maintenance shop where he trained mechanics on the job. He told me he wanted to have them sign training contracts so he could be guaranteed to get his investment back from the people he trained. When the FBO owner asked his attorney about this, the attorney told him he could have them sign a contract and sue them if it was broken, but the contract would ultimately be unenforceable if it ever went before a judge.

As is often the case in litigation, settlements are dictated by the costs of litigation, not who is right or wrong. So you can take your chances and leave, but if they come after you it is probably going to be better to negotiate a settlement or pay what you owe. Attorneys don't come cheap.

 

[On Your Six]

How long is your contract for? I would probably pay it because you don't want to burn bridges with an employer who could be asked for references in the future - you never know. Consider it an investment in your future...

I also agree that you might want to ask your future corp employer to possibly contribute. I am sure they would understand and probably appreciate that you were not trying to escape from your contractual obligations - that's a good sign in their mind.

Good luck.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Go rob a grave, put the body in the driver's seat of your car, then push it off a cliff.

Problem solved. I can't believe nobody came up with this solution yet!!!!!!!!!

This worked great for me in high school when I didn't have the heart to break up with my then gilfriend.

 

[paid4training]

Maybe try to work for a bunch of lawyer and problem solved.....lol

 

[Rally]

So funny that airlines don't have to sign contracts when we move halfway across the company to a base....Furlough me in five months I get $2000 for moving expenses. Nah never in aviation.

 

[siucavflight]

typical punk. Do something origional; live up to your f'n obligations that YOU agreed to. then go get your really cool corp. job.

How about when our employers live up to their f'n obligations then we will.

 

[luvz2fli]

I don't know how to politely put this...but you are retarded. Why doesn't DL, UA, or CX has training contracts? because they don't worry about you leaving. The regionals pay people dirt cheap, knowing that you WILL leave within three years. They budgeted the turn-around cost! But the math works out to be cheaper to keep training than to pay you respectable wages. So what I am saying is, the regionals are trying to have it both ways. If they want to retain people..PAY THEM. If they don't, expect them to leave.

I agree with what you're saying but also based on that, why sign a contract to begin with? Who besides Republic even has a contract these days?