Delta Questions

[michael707767]

Now for my question, General or ACL....included in the TA that's being proposed has some travel times and payrates for ground travel between some city pairs, eg: LAX-SNA, equals 1:30min and $18.75. What does that mean? If I'm based in LAX and finish a rotation in SNA and they van me back to my domicile...Do I get 1.5hrs credit and $18.75 towards the cab ride?

LAX, SNA and ONT are considered co terminals. If you are LAX based you may start and finish a trip out of SNA or ONT. I think the trips are built to start and finish at the same airport, but I suppose it could happen that it doesn't.

That said, there used to be some rotations at other bases where you flew into LAX, but the next day flew out of SNA (for example). So, you got paid for the time it took to van you from one place to the other. The company provides the van of course, but you get paid for your time.....kind of a ground deadhead if you will.

 

[General Lee]

Everyone that comes out of training on the B757 at NWA is qualified on all NWA B757 routes and also NWA has a couple of good guides, Asia Familiarization Guide and North Atlantic Guide, which walks newbies to AMS and NRT through pretty well. Kind of nice to fly Europe one week and then Asia next. South America is different animal though. I have flown into Quito a few times with another company and found that to be interesting, to say the least. What's the airport elev. down there, around 10k?

Yes, it is close to 10K at Quito. That flight, continuing onto Guayquil, will probably go to the 737-700 when they come online in AUG. Our 767ER pilots often do Rio or Buenos Aires one week, then Europe or even Lagos the next (that Lagos trip is getting senior---24 hours in 3 days).


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[dtfl]

Heyas,

Man, we've GOT to get that jumpseat thing fixed. NWA guys can do it with VRS or on-line 10.5 days in advance, and once you have it, you can only be bumped for VERY specific reasons (FAA, checkairman actually PERFORMING linechecks, weight restrictions).

2-3 days isn't going to cut it for most NWA commuters.

Nu

DAL pilots get to work every day with a 2-3 day window to schedule the JS.

Having the JS 2-3-10 days out only tells you you have it sooner vs later. You will still be fighting the phone lines at 10 days and 1 min or 3 days and 1 min regardless. If you don't get it you try to non-rev or get another JS.
I wouldnt mind knowing a few more days out that I was good to go on a JS, but in my experience, there is a LOT that can happen in 10 days..and Id most likely be bumped or the flight CNX.

 

[EdTeachLives!]

OK..while everyone is civil, how does NWA's reserve system work? DAL's could use improvement when it comes to shortcalls and their length...particularly INTL shortcall.

Ed

 

[p3flteng]

I can tell you how domestic short call is, I am not sure if their are different rules for International or not.

Long call is 12 hours phone call to checkin, and short call is 2 hours. Although I have never actually been given the minimum time for a call out. The computer calls you when it is assigned, which takes that decision away from scheduling. I have had as much as 18 hours notice for a long call and as much as 12 for a short.

 

[slapstick]

To be clear, the DL commuter policy favors those going to work - you can reserve it 3 1/2 days in advance. Coming home - 2 1/2 days in advance. For pleasure travel - 1 1/2 days in advance.

 

[FBN0223]

Is priority given to Delta pilots, who are jump seating on it's affiliates like Skywest, over other airlines. Can you book jump seats on any affiliates?

And thanks again, Delta guys, for all the info. cheers

 

[General Lee]

Is priority given to Delta pilots, who are jump seating on it's affiliates like Skywest, over other airlines. Can you book jump seats on any affiliates?

And thanks again, Delta guys, for all the info. cheers

You cannot book a jumpseat on any DCI carrier. But, you supposedly have priority, except for their own pilots. IOWs, if you and a USAir showed up, then you would get priority, although it is up to the Captain of course.

Remember, we also can now sit on the flight attendant jumpseats, as long as a stew doesn't want it. And, if you get a jumpseat on the phone with one back up and your flight gets cancelled etc, you are covered. You just can't get a jump with no back up behind it, and still be covered due to a wx or mx problem.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[p3flteng]

Same at NWA, we can sit in the FA jumpseat, but we can't list for it. The FA's have Pri on thier jumpseat, but usually its empty. I have often sat in the FA jump so another airline guy could sit in the cockpit( only NWA pilots are allowed access to the FA jump behind our FA's , no other pilots.) I assume this will carry over.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

That said, there used to be some rotations at other bases where you flew into LAX, but the next day flew out of SNA (for example). So, you got paid for the time it took to van you from one place to the other. The company provides the van of course, but you get paid for your time.....kind of a ground deadhead if you will.[/quote]

Here in NY we have some rotations that start at LGA and go to FL and come back up to JFK, and have a JFK layover. The next day you fly back south and then return to LGA to complete the rotation. Even in "co-terminal" bases, if they do not bring you back to the airport you began at, it is still a layover. Of course if they wanted to they can van you from JFK back to LGA to finish the first day but they don't. I am not sure what the pay is to surface deadhead

 

[~~~^~~~]

From what I'm hearing, there may be a lot more commuters in the future, amongst the Delta pilots. It is hoped with load factors as high as they are and load optimization programs setting artifical weight constraints on flights that POSITIVE SPACE PASSES for commuting are negotiated. They may be needed.

 

[skystud25]

Can any Delta guys shed some light on how parking works in La in the above examples. IE, called out on a short call to ONT, SNA, or LAX, where do you park and how is it paid for?

 

[Jiminmem]

Wow, a first on FI, an entire topic that is civil and more importantly useful and full of good info.

As for the jumpseat at NWA, no Pinnacle, Mesaba, and Compass are first at their carriers, then we are next on the list. The flight deck jumpseat on any mainline NWA aircraft can be listed for by computer or phone 10 days out and after that you have it. The only reasons that you wouldn't have been listed before.

Reserve bidding at NWAis just bidding for days off you want. The rseulst come out a day before block lines are, I believe. You can then prefrence long/short call. I live in base so when I was on reserve I just left it at short, get used less often from what I hear and obsereved.

As for call outs, they were all over the place. Only once did I get the infamous, how fast can you make it. Other then that it was anywhere from almost 24 hours prior down to 5 hours prior.

Good luck to all and hopefully we can merger then best with each company.

 

[Noserider76]

Can any Delta guys shed some light on how parking works in La in the above examples. IE, called out on a short call to ONT, SNA, or LAX, where do you park and how is it paid for?

If you're LA based you have a parking pass at LAX. Bus ride lot to termimal is about 10 min. We have a contract with hotels in SNA and ONT to use their lot and van service to airport.

 

[skystud25]

If you're LA based you have a parking pass at LAX. Bus ride lot to termimal is about 10 min. We have a contract with hotels in SNA and ONT to use their lot and van service to airport.

Thanks Noserider for the info.