Delta Questions

[FBN0223]

Assuming that we reach that hypothetical day when all issues including seniority integration are resolved and we are one big happy Delta family, I would like to ask a couple questions about the Delta operation. So putting the cart waaaay before the horse...here goes

1) Do you do computer bidding using a program to build a line with your own set parameters or do bid hard lines of flying?

2) Which base is typical most senior for international flying? Which is most junior? How about domestic?

3) What equipment types are based in SLC?

4) Any commuter policies? Ex: Do you get a positive space seat on a back up flight to base?

I certainly appreciate any feedback from the Delta pilots.

Thanks

FBN

 

[800Dog]

Assuming that we reach that hypothetical day when all issues including seniority integration are resolved and we are one big happy Delta family, I would like to ask a couple questions about the Delta operation. So putting the cart waaaay before the horse...here goes

1) Do you do computer bidding using a program to build a line with your own set parameters or do bid hard lines of flying?

2) Which base is typical most senior for international flying? Which is most junior? How about domestic?

3) What equipment types are based in SLC?

4) Any commuter policies? Ex: Do you get a positive space seat on a back up flight to base?

I certainly appreciate any feedback from the Delta pilots.

Thanks

FBN

1st beer is on me.

1. PBS bidding.

2. International Sr. would probably be ATL. JFK Jr. Junior domestic NYC and Sr. SLC but, domestic seems to be fairly even throughout the system. NY probably the most jr.

3. SLC 757/767, m88/90 and 737

4. Commuters have a call in honest policy. I believe you have to try 2 flights to get to work and if u do not make it, u can call in honest.

5. 1st round is on me if we ever fly togehter. Lets get this SLI worked out and focus on the bigger picture!

 

[FBN0223]

1st beer is on me.

1. PBS bidding.

2. International Sr. would probably be ATL. JFK Jr. Junior domestic NYC and Sr. SLC but, domestic seems to be fairly even throughout the system. NY probably the most jr.

3. SLC 757/767, m88/90 and 737

4. Commuters have a call in honest policy. I believe you have to try 2 flights to get to work and if u do not make it, u can call in honest.

5. 1st round is on me if we ever fly togehter. Lets get this SLI worked out and focus on the bigger picture!

Thanks Dog. I'll get the second and third. cheers

 

[iaflyer]

I wanted to add that reserve lines are the traditional, pre-made lines of work days and off days. However, the PBS folks say that they are working on making bidding for reserve be part of PBS. Right now, they are done in separate computer interfaces (but both can be done online).

 

[gutshotdraw]

Assuming that we reach that hypothetical day when all issues including seniority integration are resolved and we are one big happy Delta family,

FBN

I don't know if there will still be airplanes on that day in 2026......

Don't hold your breath.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Man, we've GOT to get that jumpseat thing fixed. NWA guys can do it with VRS or on-line 10.5 days in advance, and once you have it, you can only be bumped for VERY specific reasons (FAA, checkairman actually PERFORMING linechecks, weight restrictions).

2-3 days isn't going to cut it for most NWA commuters.

Nu

 

[JohnQ]

Heyas,

Man, we've GOT to get that jumpseat thing fixed. NWA guys can do it with VRS or on-line 10.5 days in advance, and once you have it, you can only be bumped for VERY specific reasons (FAA, checkairman actually PERFORMING linechecks, weight restrictions).

2-3 days isn't going to cut it for most NWA commuters.

Nu

We need to "cut and paste" the best elements of both airline's operations. Our PBS system (NavTech) is the only decent one out there, so I am pretty sure we are going to keep it (I think you will like it). But I like the NWA jumpseat feature a lot better, as well as your automatic 1 1/2 times pay for all flying > 80 hrs.

If and hopefully when we are finally one powerhouse airline and pilot group, make sure you keep a bug in your LEC reps ear to ensure that we keep the best of both sides.

 

[FBN0223]

Another couple of questions: For you Delta guys on the B757/767, do you bounce back and forth between the two aircraft on trips or will you bid for example a B767 international trip and the next trip might be B757 domestic? I also live out west and wouldn't mind being SLC based someday. Any international out of SLC?

Most all of the FO's at NWA on the B757 at have unrestricted type ratings and it will be kind of cool to finally fly one of the aircraft that came with the common rating. I am not an Airbus fan and the A330 was the next step up in my case. So nice that you guys have the 767.

Thanks again in advance for any input.

 

[General Lee]

Another couple of questions: For you Delta guys on the B757/767, do you bounce back and forth between the two aircraft on trips or will you bid for example a B767 international trip and the next trip might be B757 domestic? I also live out west and wouldn't mind being SLC based someday. Any international out of SLC?

Most all of the FO's at NWA on the B757 at have unrestricted type ratings and it will be kind of cool to finally fly one of the aircraft that came with the common rating. I am not an Airbus fan and the A330 was the next step up in my case. So nice that you guys have the 767.

Thanks again in advance for any input.

We have seperate categories. LAX 767ER does most of the Hawaii stuff from LAX and SLC. LAX 757/767 domestic does flights out of LAX, SNA, and ONT mainly Eastbound. On any trip, you may fly a few legs on the 767-300, with the rest 757, or some trips only 757. JFK 767ER does mainly Europe, Africa, and some South America, almost exclusively on the 767-300ER. ATL ER does the same and has a mix of 767 and 757 flying, but also some domestic in the Winter because there are so many pilots and the frequency of flights decreases a bit in the Winter.

Our Domestic flying on the 757/767 does mainly transcons, with a few Carribbean Island layovers or a Cancun thrown in there. If you are SLC based, you will be doing some ANC, and mainly FLA with some early East Coast departures back to SLC for that last leg home.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

The 7ER guys do the int'l flying. The 767 guys do the domestic stuff. (That is the designation for the categories). The 767 guys could get either on a trip (pay is the same). The 7ER guys until recently would only get 767-ERs. They would do the overseas portions and the 767 guys would have done the domestic flying of that same ER brought to JFK or ATL. Since we received the first batch of the 15 757-ERs, the same rules apply, however, a 7ER Int'l guy can get a 757-ER on the Int'l portions; JFK-DUB, FRA, EDI, and a few others.

 

[FBN0223]

Thanks guys!! Now I just wonder who's going to get all of the B757 Asia flying. Time will tell.

 

[General Lee]

Thanks guys!! Now I just wonder who's going to get all of the B757 Asia flying. Time will tell.

Probably the base that was trained for it. DTW? We used to have certain bases trained for specific flying---like CVG used to do all of the 757/767 Latin America flying (Bogota, San Jose CR, etc) which has been changed since. Now all of the 767ER pilots are trained to fly that stuff. But, I would think your current base who flies it would continue to do so....? Our ATL 767ER guys do fly to HKG via ANC for MX flights, so we have the ability I guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[andyd]

WOW, this is really refreshing! An entire thread with honest questions and answers and no smart @ss comments, flames or screw you mentality. Let's keep it up.

Now for my question, General or ACL....included in the TA that's being proposed has some travel times and payrates for ground travel between some city pairs, eg: LAX-SNA, equals 1:30min and $18.75. What does that mean? If I'm based in LAX and finish a rotation in SNA and they van me back to my domicile...Do I get 1.5hrs credit and $18.75 towards the cab ride? Or is the cab/van ride taken care of and they're giving us an extra $18.75 for the hassel?

Thanks....

 

[andyd]

WOW, this is really refreshing! An entire thread with honest questions and answers and no smart @ss comments, flames or screw you mentality. Let's keep it up.

Now for my question, General or ACL....included in the TA that's being proposed has some travel times and payrates for ground travel between some city pairs, eg: LAX-SNA, equals 1:30min and $18.75. What does that mean? If I'm based in LAX and finish a rotation in SNA and they van me back to my domicile...Do I get 1.5hrs credit and $18.75 towards the cab ride? Or is the cab/van ride taken care of and they're giving us an extra $18.75 for the hassel?

Thanks....

 

[FBN0223]

Probably the base that was trained for it. DTW? We used to have certain bases trained for specific flying---like CVG used to do all of the 757/767 Latin America flying (Bogota, San Jose CR, etc) which has been changed since. Now all of the 767ER pilots are trained to fly that stuff. But, I would think your current base who flies it would continue to do so....? Our ATL 767ER guys do fly to HKG via ANC for MX flights, so we have the ability I guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Everyone that comes out of training on the B757 at NWA is qualified on all NWA B757 routes and also NWA has a couple of good guides, Asia Familiarization Guide and North Atlantic Guide, which walks newbies to AMS and NRT through pretty well. Kind of nice to fly Europe one week and then Asia next. South America is different animal though. I have flown into Quito a few times with another company and found that to be interesting, to say the least. What's the airport elev. down there, around 10k?