787 delayed again

[Bavarian Chef]

Report: Boeing 787 launch delayed again

April 9, 2008 7:58 AM ET
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NEW YORK (AP) - Boeing will announce Wednesday that its massive 787 aircraft will be delayed at least 14 months, and possibly 18 months, after it was originally scheduled to be launched, according to media reports. The Times of London reported on its Web site late Wednesday, quoting those familiar with the matter who asked not to be identified, that delays for 787 could reach 18 months, while the Seattle Post-Intelligencer put the delay at 14 months from the original goal. Boeing has said its goal is to send the 787 on its first flight by the end of June, and deliver the first plane to All Nippon Airways in early 2009. However, after announcing a third major delay in the 787 program in January, Chicago-based Boeing said it would review the schedule once again.
Lori Gunter, a spokeswoman for the 787 program, said she could not comment before a previously scheduled conference call later Wednesday. Delays for Chicago-based Boeing could come close to those experienced by European rival Airbus, which saw delays of 18 months for its A380. Analysts, as well as major buyers of the aircraft, have said in recent weeks that they expect delays of six to nine months.
Boeing said in October that the aircraft would be delayed 6 months, then in January, announced another three-month delay. The aircraft initially was expected to fly around September 2007. The 787 will be the first large commercial airplane made mostly of carbon-fiber composites, which are lighter and more durable than the metals used in most planes today. Boeing has said it will save fuel and be cheaper to maintain than comparable planes flying today.
Boeing shares fell 2.4 percent, or $1.82, to $73.20 in premarket trading.

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[DOVPILOT]

The fact that a bunch of different countries are making it is probably the main reason for all the delays.

 

[Max Powers]

The fact that a bunch of different countries are making it is probably the main reason for all the delays.

Yea, because it can't be this countries fault!

Oil shortage and high costs that ain't my fault. My rights as an american are to drive a SUV any gawd dang time I want.

Iraq is in a civil and ethnic war based on how you religious sect. This sure isn't this countries fault; I mean we destroyed what little government they had and we don't need no plan to rebuild their nation.

LONG LIVE BUSH

 

[Rick James]

Yea, because it can't be this countries fault!

Oil shortage and high costs that ain't my fault. My rights as an american are to drive a SUV any gawd dang time I want.

Iraq is in a civil and ethnic war based on how you religious sect. This sure isn't this countries fault; I mean we destroyed what little government they had and we don't need no plan to rebuild their nation.

LONG LIVE BUSH

Seek Counseling!

 

[imlars]

Move.

 

[Dr.Hwang]

Gayness.

 

[NAAPilot]

My guess is that the main reason for the delay is Boeing's relative inexperience in dealing with composites. They have never dealt with it on such a large scale.

 

[737 Pylt]

Gayness.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Describes Max Powers to a "T!"

737

 

[PA31Driver]

The fact that a bunch of different countries are making it is probably the main reason for all the delays.

So, when the A380 was delayed, it was Airbus' fault even though multiple countries were involved in the production. But when the 787 is delayed it is everyone else's fault?

 

[UALjan15]

My guess is that the main reason for the delay is Boeing's relative inexperience in dealing with composites. They have never dealt with it on such a large scale.

I think this is closest to the truth. When I initially reviewed Boeing's revolutionary changes to be incorporated into the 787 and the aggressive timeline, I expected delays. There are just so many systems on this plane that are a complete departure from any previous Boeing (or Airbus, for that matter). Mark my words, we haven't seen the last of the delays.

If Airbus had any credibility with the A350 and its timeline, they might be able to poach some orders from Boeing. As it stands, however, airlines won't gain anything by switching teams unless the 787 becomes a debacle and the A350 somehow gets fast-tracked.

 

[motch]

100% Fault of Boeing..
It seems that in the last few years... there is a serious problem in that house.

Lost the contract to lease 767 tankers to the USAF due to improper actions of it's officers.

Put up the same (now 6 yrs older) 767 tanker and lost the contract to a newer model.

Now this.

I want to see Boeing succeed as they are the last great aircraft manufacturer in the U S of A. But they need to get there act together.

This is exactly what happens when you no longer have viable competition. In the day, we had 3 major aircraft manufactures.. and that was down from 7!
Now we have one.. and they can't seem to get the job done. Sad

 

[F/O]

Boeing will announce Wednesday that its massive 787 aircraft will be delayed at least 14 months, and possibly 18 months

"Massive" compared to what, an RJ??

 

[sstearns2]

Well, for one thing military aircraft selection is historically not based on the quality of the design or the economics of operation or acquisition, but on political grounds. The C-5 and the B-2 are good examples, if you believe Ben Rich.

I have to think that Boeing is very comfortable with large composite structure. The primary structure is designed, built, and sitting on the ramp. My guess is that the problems are with getting the large composite pieces built around the world to fit together precisely like the metal ones do.

Scott