XJT branded flying...how long can they hold on

[MALSR]

Amid all these airlines folding, how can express jet keep flying 50 seaters around?? Are they really making that much money from their contract lift that they can keep throwing fuel on the fire with the branded flying? Maybe I'm missing something. Good luck to all....we will need it

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Pure speculation, but they probably can last longer as a company if they get rid of branded, than if they hold on to it.

 

[Future Furlough]

Pure speculation...the sun will blow up tomorrow, we'll all be dead, and it won't matter. Besides, after Skywest buys XJT they won't have anything to worry about.

 

[ATRCA]

The only guys who ask these kinds of questions are the ones who will feel some kind of childish vindication if said airline struggles.

Why do you care?

 

[BrkDkPlt]

Amid all these airlines folding, how can express jet keep flying 50 seaters around?? Are they really making that much money from their contract lift that they can keep throwing fuel on the fire with the branded flying? Maybe I'm missing something. Good luck to all....we will need it

Unless you work here, you shouldn't worry about it. Carry On

 

[G2T]

Unless you work here, you shouldn't worry about it. Carry On

...unless you're reading flightinfo, in which case most (sometimes myself included) feel obligated to comment and voice opinions on anything and everything while knowing nothing.

 

[FSIGRAD]

Unless you work here, you shouldn't worry about it. Carry On

You guys are so sensitive...

 

[WSurf]

Unless you work here, you shouldn't worry about it. Carry On

Not true, if you are looking for a place to work then you need to be worried about it. Now, Carry on!

 

[sstearns2]

I've asked both the CEO of skywest inc and the president of skywest about Xjets branded flying and both said they've looked at the routes a number of times and there isn't the revenue to make it work. It was either shut down half the company or give branded a shot and they chose the latter.

Scott

 

[jonjuan]

It was either shut down half the company or give branded a shot and they chose the latter.

Scott

??????WTF??? English, Mother ********************%er, do you speak it?

 

[sstearns2]

cute.

 

[Whydoitry]

I've asked both the CEO of skywest inc and the president of skywest about Xjets branded flying and both said they've looked at the routes a number of times and there isn't the revenue to make it work. It was either shut down half the company or give branded a shot and they chose the latter.

Scott

Nothing against your CEO or President as they may be ours some day and they have done a fine job with Skywest, but their opinions do not make facts, only opinions. Branded was planned when fuel was $54 a barrel, had it not doubled branded would be operating in the black right now. The branded operation does not account for half of our business, so no, it would not have shut down half the company. Had we given up 1/4 of the fleet at that time another 1/4 would have followed that and another 1/4 and another, then we would have been no more.

The loads on branded seem to be increasing monthly and we are trying to increase the high yield fares. It may work, it may not. But our management has done a hell of a job thus far.

 

[brokedash]

Why would OO be intrested in a 200+ 50 seat fleet?
If the alleged economics of 50 seaters are as bad as stated, why would OO even consider such a losing proposition?

 

[Whydoitry]

Why would OO be intrested in a 200+ 50 seat fleet?
If the alleged economics of 50 seaters are as bad as stated, why would OO even consider such a losing proposition?

Perhaps because it makes money and gives them CAL.

 

[BLing]

I met a Republic FO the other day. He's claiming that XJT will be under in 3-5 months and that Republic will take all the flying. What made me sick, was his hope for this to actually take place. Jerk!

I did think from day one that the branded flying was a bad idea with good intentions... Who wants for ride an ERJ from OMA-ONT? I dont! Atleast XJT has been trying to better themselves. I just dont think the branded flying is going to help them.

 

[RobCat]

I met a Republic FO the other day. He's claiming that XJT will be under in 3-5 months and that Republic will take all the flying. What made me sick, was his hope for this to actually take place. Jerk!

I did think from day one that the branded flying was a bad idea with good intentions... Who wants for ride an ERJ from OMA-ONT? I dont! Atleast XJT has been trying to better themselves. I just dont think the branded flying is going to help them.

So where would republic get the crews and planes to take over xjets flying? I don't think so.

 

[flyguy81]

not that i want it to happen cause it's a good company...but if xjt were to cut branded with no other place to put planes, i'm sure the planes would go back to CAL and CHQ would assume leases if the CEO wanted to take them over. As for crews....who knows?

 

[RobCat]

Get ready for a huge shakeup at the regional level. I believe the ball game is changing.

 

[Popeye0537]

I met a Republic FO the other day. He's claiming that XJT will be under in 3-5 months and that Republic will take all the flying. What made me sick, was his hope for this to actually take place. Jerk!

I did think from day one that the branded flying was a bad idea with good intentions... Who wants for ride an ERJ from OMA-ONT? I dont! Atleast XJT has been trying to better themselves. I just dont think the branded flying is going to help them.

I call BS on this one. No Republic FO would care about XJT because they work for Republic mainline, and who would want to fly for CHQ regional airlines after flying for the mainline?

 

[FSIGRAD]

I call BS on this one. No Republic FO would care about XJT because they work for Republic mainline, and who would want to fly for CHQ regional airlines after flying for the mainline?

Bedford constantly says he wants out of the 50 market all together. The CAL flying was just to get his foot in the door over there. CRJ's are going back to the desert starting later this year. What the future plans are who knows? Currently that is limited by scope.

 

[hawkowl88]

End of the year

I was in Ontario yesterday and talked to a few of the XJet ground people and the consensus was that the branded flying would end at the end of the year. That was the rumor.

On the bright side, they seem to be picking up a lot of flying for DAL.

 

[Medeco]

I

On the bright side, they seem to be picking up a lot of flying for DAL.

Really?

Medeco

 

[Superpilot92]

Really?

Medeco

Yes Really!!

SP

 

[145BOSS]

What is Republic mainline?

 

[Superpilot92]

What is Republic mainline?

A figment of their imagination

 

[azpilot]

I did think from day one that the branded flying was a bad idea with good intentions... Who wants for ride an ERJ from OMA-ONT? I dont! Atleast XJT has been trying to better themselves. I just dont think the branded flying is going to help them.

I hear positive comments all the time about how they love the airline and hope it succeeds. Way more positive than negative. I have heard people say we are better than Southwest, jumpseating on SW within earshot. No middle seat, food, cheap drinks, etc. Mind you I have no complaints about SW. They have always treated me well as a paying passenger and non-rev. Just relaying the feedback I get from customers.

One person the other day said it was cheaper to fly SW to San Jose and then drive down to Monterrey vs flying us. Maybe? How much for the car, gas, time, etc.

Whether we can survive or not who knows. I am just trying to address the comment about a long flight on an RJ. Give them food, XM radio, cheap drinks, and good service can go a long way.

 

[ToiletDuck]

So where would republic get the crews and planes to take over xjets flying? I don't think so.

They've never had the crews of planes yet they've made it happen.

 

[ParrotheadPilot]

I hear positive comments all the time about how they love the airline and hope it succeeds. Way more positive than negative.

I want the Expressjet branded to succeed as much as the next guy. But I have to say positive comments don't pay the bills. A sample of fares on expressjet.com shows most flights between $99 and $139 dollars. Even 50 seats at $139 bucks a flight yields revenue of $6950. On the long flights that just doesn't cut it. Plus the fact that the planes aren't full.

I've never ridden the product but I'm sure it's top notch. The XJT pilot group is upstanding for the most part and I wish them the best, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Yes I'm a CHQ pilot, and NO, I never wanted the CO flying to begin with, and certainly don't want anymore of it.

 

[flyboyzz1]

its my understanding that cal hasnt been that pleased with how chq has been operating. Heard after the short contract is up cal may get rid of chq for someone else or give back the flying back to exj

 

[ATRCA]

I've asked both the CEO of skywest inc and the president of skywest about Xjets branded flying and both said they've looked at the routes a number of times and there isn't the revenue to make it work. It was either shut down half the company or give branded a shot and they chose the latter.

Scott

69 of 274 doesn't equal half....................I don't think at least. Do Mormons have different math?