FAA grounds Delta MD-88s, but only if they are in Atlanta

[ugasucks]

MD-88s grounded in Atlanta until inspection

Thanks SWA for the FAA witch hunt!!!!!!

 

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Articles about the AA fiasco say that the wiring for the aux hydraulic pumps has to be bound at one inch intervals and some bindings were found at more than one inch. The wiring bundle is easily visible, but time consuming to re-secure.

Any DC9 derivative is going to have this issue.

Sounds like an over-reaction on an item that has not been causing problems that I've heard anything about in safety circles.

Hate it for all involved.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Thank God they didn't ground the Song jets. Delta wouldn't be able to compete with Jet Blue or Air Tran without this gem.

 

[737 Pylt]

Thank God they didn't ground the Song jets. Delta wouldn't be able to compete with Jet Blue or Air Tran without this gem.

Hello? Is this thing on? I hear an echo! Hello?

737

 

[Tanker Clown]

You guys should really do a better job inspecting/taking care of your jets. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[737 Pylt]

You guys should really do a better job inspecting/taking care of your jets. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

I agree, we should me more like SWA and just fly them when they're in need of inspections!:laugh:

737

 

[Tanker Clown]

I'm not real sure what your talking about there buddy.

 

[400ADude]

Makes you wonder what else they are hiding. I hope the FAA gets to the bottom of this.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Makes you wonder what else they are hiding. I hope the FAA gets to the bottom of this.

True. I'm even more curious about what type of games they're playing with their balance sheet. I'm sure the SEC could find some creative accounting there.

 

[328dude]

Thanks SWA for the FAA witch hunt!!!!!!

Ahhh, what? Your airline in the news now? Have a nice warm glass of pi$$ for me will ya?

 

[Sinca3]

Thanks SWA for the FAA witch hunt!!!!!!

Enjoy being home tonight you pansy!!!

 

[RJAA]

Maybe this is the latest airline tactics to save money due to the fuel spike. Maybe it couldn't hurt to cancel over 300 flights instead of pissing fuel away on fuel guzzling airplane on money losing routes and reaccomodate pax on other flights on a slow midweek day, and check some wires volunteerily. Scheduled carriers can't cancel flights just because it's not full. Maybe they got it all figured out...haha.

 

[bravodude]

Thanks SWA for the FAA witch hunt!!!!!!

Glad we could help. ( Whats that saying... people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones) Should of had your $%it together before having a laugh at our expense!

 

[siucavflight]

I believe this is different then SWA, Delta was grounded to do the inspection. SWA was not doing the inspections that were required, and as a result fined 10 million dollars. At least DAL is following the law.

 

[IronCityBlue]

Hopefully this new FAA emphasis on perfect maintenence will result in less outsourcing. And hopefully other work groups start to pony up some negotiating capital to get scope. Far too much of that burden has fallen on the pilots, with other work groups benefitting as a result.

 

[737tanker]

I believe this is different then SWA, Delta was grounded to do the inspection. SWA was not doing the inspections that were required, and as a result fined 10 million dollars. At least DAL is following the law.

The inspections that SWA "didn't" do was a series of overlapping inspections. These inpections were done at the time that they were required, however on 46 of the aircraft a 20 square inch area wasn't done. When SWA found out LAST year they weren't done they told Boeing and the FAA. Both said it was okay to wait 10 days to inpsect that 20 square inch area, SWA did it in 8. It was a year later, after political pressure, that the FAA changed their mind and put in the fine.

 

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From what I read, the DC9 / MD88 issue is nothing. We are talking a wire wrap with one inch spacing, versus one and a quarter.

If the FAA wanted to really do somthing about safety, they would knock off these last minute runway changes that cause confusion at a workload intensive point of a flight.

 

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From another thread Citation Lover posted a quote from American on the issue:

this was sent to AA's pilots:

RE: MD80 WIRE BUNDLE REINSPECTION

IT HAS BEEN WIDELY REPORTED THAT THE FAA HAS INCREASED THE AUDITING OF MAINTENANCE RECORDS OF ALL AIRLINES. DURING THE AUDIT OF AMERICAN AIRLINES, A JOINT TEAM OF AA AND FAA INSPECTORS RAISED QUESTIONS REGARDING AN ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVE CONCERNING HOW A CERTAIN BUNDLE OF WIRES IS SECURED TO THE MD-80 AIRCRAFT. AA IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AD.

THE MAIN ISSUE CONCERNS HOW A PROTECTIVE SLEEVE OVER THE AUX HYDRAULIC PUMP WIRING IS SECURED TO A WIRE BUNDLE IN THE WHEE WELL IN ACCORDANCE WITH AA MAINTENANCE PROCEDURES. THE AA SPECIFICATIONS REQUIRE THIS SLEEVE BE TIED TO A WIRE BUNDLE EVERY ONE INCH - IT APPEARS SOME TIE INTERVALS MAY EXCEED THE ONE-INCH SPECIFICATION. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REINSPECTING THE MD-80S TO MAKE SURE THE WIRING IS INSTALLED AND SECURED EXACTLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AA DIRECTIVES. BECAUSE THE PROCESS CAN TAKE SEVERAL HOURS TO REINSPECT EACH AIRCRAFT, WE HAVE HAD TO CANCEL APPROXIMATELY 200 FLIGHTS. MAINTENANCE INSPECTED 203 MD-80S LAST NIGHT AND REMOVED 79 OF THESE AIRPLANES FROM SERVICE TO RE-SECURE THE PROTECTIVE SLEEVE AND A WIRING BUNDLE. THESE AIRPLANES ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN SERVICE BY THE END OF THE DAY. WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE INSPECTIONS ON THE REMAINING AIRPLANES AND WILL RETURN THEM TO SERVICE ON A ROLLING BASIS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

MAINTENANCE PROJECTS THEY WILL HAVE THE REMAINING AIRPLANES INSPECTED WITHIN TWO DAYS.

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

Maybe this is the latest airline tactics to save money due to the fuel spike. Maybe it couldn't hurt to cancel over 300 flights instead of pissing fuel away on fuel guzzling airplane on money losing routes and reaccomodate pax on other flights on a slow midweek day, and check some wires volunteerily. Scheduled carriers can't cancel flights just because it's not full. Maybe they got it all figured out...haha.

I had my JFK-FLL turn cnx due to the 88 being unavailable. With it being overbooked on both legs, it couldn't have come at a worse time..

 

[737 Pylt]

Glad we could help. ( Whats that saying... people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones) Should of had your $%it together before having a laugh at our expense!

The big difference is our airline gets slammed every day.....
The bigger difference, we weren't avoiding mandatory inspections, this was an AD that came out yesterday afternoon at 5, hence why your airline got fined $10 million (for avoiding mandatory inspecions)!

737

 

[bravodude]

The big difference is our airline gets slammed every day.....
The bigger difference, we weren't avoiding mandatory inspections, this was an AD that came out yesterday afternoon at 5, hence why your airline got fined $10 million (for avoiding mandatory inspecions)!

737

Your airline gets slammed everyday by who? creditors...true! I agree with you.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Your airline gets slammed everyday by who? creditors...true! I agree with you.

I'm sure the creditors have long since thrown in the towel trying to get money from Delta. Loaning money to them is like loaning money to a meth head.

 

[737 Pylt]

Your airline gets slammed everyday by who? creditors...true! I agree with you.

The difference is, we accept it.
For a pansy like you, you cry about it! Now pay your fine and start inspecting those airplanes like you're supposed to!

737

 

[737 Pylt]

I'm sure the creditors have long since thrown in the towel trying to get money from Delta. Loaning money to them is like loaning money to a meth head.

Based on your picture, I'd say you're speaking from experience! Better hope the colonel doesn't find out about that.

737

 

[400ADude]

Your airline gets slammed everyday by who? creditors...true! I agree with you.

Creditors need the stock up. No doubt there pushing for this merger and Anderson is bailing water out of the ship. Hopefully it'll be done in the next two weeks, with or without the pilots.

 

[737 Pylt]

Creditors need the stock up. No doubt there pushing for this merger and Anderson is bailing water out of the ship. Hopefully it'll be done in the next two weeks, with or without the pilots.

On 1/13/07 400AHOLE wrote:
Thanks Whiskey! Lets hope this thing goes through sooner than later.
Then on 1/22/07 Mr. 400AHOLE writes:
WD, for your sake and the rest of the America West and USAIr guys I hope this whole thing doesn't go thru.

400AHOLE=chuck yogurt/lawman/einstein/texas crotch rot/boris yelling/lame lizard/sky fly

Chucky, thanks for making you look so foolish so entertaining!
Keep up the good work!
Sorry you didn't get hired.....But hurry, you still have until friday! Run forrest, run!


737

 

[Aubie]

SIU-

Great point. Don't remember what it was, but I wish you would comment on every thread and do so very often. Or even better, could you send me a digital copy of that avatar? Thanks, bro.

 

[jetflier]

True. I'm even more curious about what type of games they're playing with their balance sheet. I'm sure the SEC could find some creative accounting there.

Are you trying to rain on Delta's parade ? Can't you see that they have a lot going on right now!

Geeze,....give 'em a break !

(...'cause we want to merge with 'em !)

 

[Tanker Clown]

Are you trying to rain on Delta's parade ? Can't you see that they have a lot going on right now!

Geeze,....give 'em a break !

(...'cause we want to merge with 'em !)

Sorry. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. I'm sure Enron...er...Delta's books are squared away.

 

[Redmeat]

Any DC9 derivative is going to have this issue.

I don't think so. From what I understand the 'basic' airplane isn't involved in this.