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GogglesPisano

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Delta CEO: 'Comprehensive' Changes Ahead
Friday March 14, 4:06 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Business Writer
Delta Will Revise Business Plan to Deal With Higher Fuel


ATLANTA (AP) -- Delta Air Lines Inc. will be overhauling its business plan to deal with soaring fuel prices, the chief executive of the nation's third-largest carrier said Friday.
CEO Richard Anderson did not provide any details in a recorded message to employees, including whether the "comprehensive" plan to be announced next week will include job cuts.

Atlanta-based Delta has already cut domestic flights, eliminated some routes and tried to conserve fuel as the price of a barrel of oil has soared over the last year from $60 to $111 this week, Anderson said.

Spokeswoman Chris Kelly declined to comment beyond Anderson's message to employees.

Delta president Ed Bastian is expected to speak at an investor conference Tuesday.

In the recording, Anderson did not mention consolidation talks between Delta and Eagan, Minn.-based Northwest Airlines Corp.

A deal to combine the two carriers, which at one time had been projected to be worth $20 billion, has been held up by an inability of the two airlines' pilots unions to reach a deal on integrating their seniority lists.

Leaders of the two unions aren't currently meeting, but remain in communication. It's not clear when they will meet again.

Anderson said Delta has to operate cautiously during uncertain financial times that have seen fuel prices increase dramatically.

He said Delta already has trimmed some selected domestic routes at off-peak times, while growing international capacity.

Anderson said the company will make other reductions when necessary.

He said the company will role out a more comprehensive plan "in reaction to changes in the marketplace."

"Stay tuned," Anderson told employees. "We're going to have a lot more information out next week about our business plan in light of the fuel prices we're facing."
 
Read between the lines. Looks like they are throwing in the towel domestically. Are furloughs and pay cuts out of othe question?
 
I would expect a huge number of RJs to be grounded - 50 seaters don't make sense at these fuel prices. Probably consolidate flights on certain routes or redeploy some of the domestic fleet (MD88s and 738s) to cover departing RJs (one mainline flight for 3-4 RJ flights on important feed routes). Maybe better use of existing CR9s and E170s as 50-seaters are grounded. That would be my guess. I don't see international flights be cut or changed at all (that's where the money is...).

DAL pilot hiring should continue but probably at a slower rate going forward...
 
I would expect a huge number of RJs to be grounded - 50 seaters don't make sense at these fuel prices. Probably consolidate flights on certain routes or redeploy some of the domestic fleet (MD88s and 738s) to cover departing RJs (one mainline flight for 3-4 RJ flights on important feed routes). Maybe better use of existing CR9s and E170s as 50-seaters are grounded. That would be my guess. I don't see international flights be cut or changed at all (that's where the money is...).

DAL pilot hiring should continue but probably at a slower rate going forward...

Delta flys RJ's? Is that what General Lee is flying?
 
Delta flys RJ's? Is that what General Lee is flying?

I know you're being funny, but DL operates more rj's than anyone, and like oys said, I think you'll see a lot more of them grounded as they just don't make money (50 seaters) any more.
 
I know you're being funny, but DL operates more rj's than anyone, and like oys said, I think you'll see a lot more of them grounded as they just don't make money (50 seaters) any more.

Does Delta own alot of RJs or are they leased?
 
I know you're being funny, but DL operates more rj's than anyone, and like oys said, I think you'll see a lot more of them grounded as they just don't make money (50 seaters) any more.

Shoot...does that mean you could upgrade right now? If they are getting grounded, does that mean furloughs.
 
The problem with grounding RJs is that will cut domestic feed for the profitable international routes....cut off too much and your international flights won't have enough feed.....

If you replace 3 or 4 RJs a day with one Maddog, you will lose traffic to the competition because of the schedule......

This is tough and things could get a lot worse for everyone.......
 
I would expect a huge number of RJs to be grounded - 50 seaters don't make sense at these fuel prices. Probably consolidate flights on certain routes or redeploy some of the domestic fleet (MD88s and 738s) to cover departing RJs (one mainline flight for 3-4 RJ flights on important feed routes). Maybe better use of existing CR9s and E170s as 50-seaters are grounded. That would be my guess. I don't see international flights be cut or changed at all (that's where the money is...).

DAL pilot hiring should continue but probably at a slower rate going forward...
The should have done this ten years ago.
 
The problem with grounding RJs is that will cut domestic feed for the profitable international routes....cut off too much and your international flights won't have enough feed.....

If you replace 3 or 4 RJs a day with one Maddog, you will lose traffic to the competition because of the schedule......

This is tough and things could get a lot worse for everyone.......
I believe this is incorrect. Lower frequency will allow them to raise ticket prices as everyone will follow suit by reducing frequency. If Delta is halfway smart, they have realized that RJs are incredibly wasteful and will get a jump on the competition.
 
The should have done this ten years ago.

....USAir did....didn't work out too well for them.....

I remember when USAir was flying 737 into AVL while everyone else was flying RJs......They would load 50 or so people on a 737 and lose money.....
 
....USAir did....didn't work out too well for them.....

I remember when USAir was flying 737 into AVL while everyone else was flying RJs......They would load 50 or so people on a 737 and lose money.....
Eventually not every airport with an airstair will get service. Or, the airlines will return to turboprops. That is the other thing they should have done ten years ago.
 
Uh oh..Richards got a new plan.......wonder if he'll hint at paycuts?
 
Hey, all kidding aside, this is not going to be good for the 50 seaters.......The days of DL paying the gas bills are probably going to come to a screeching halt.

The 50 seaters are a money loser.

Its not going to be pretty.

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...........or a flowthrough.........

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.....actually we already have that.....about a hundred ASA pilots have already taken advantage of it in the past year....

Those who want to "flowup" can.....I just don't want the flushback......
 
Hey, all kidding aside, this is not going to be good for the 50 seaters.......The days of DL paying the gas bills are probably going to come to a screeching halt.

The 50 seaters are a money loser.

Its not going to be pretty.

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....on this we agree.....we wouldn't have so many 50 seaters if it hadn't been for the scope clauses that drew a line at 50 seats.....That was a huge mistake....

....We will see more 70-90 seaters and hopefully more turboprops......
 
I assume the RJs are ComAir...so can DAL furlough a ComAir guy or park a ComAir jet? I'll admit that I'm completely ignorant of what ComAir's relationship is with Delta these days.
 
I assume the RJs are ComAir...so can DAL furlough a ComAir guy or park a ComAir jet? I'll admit that I'm completely ignorant of what ComAir's relationship is with Delta these days.


You rag on DL all day long but don't even have a clue about our operation. There was not a single correct statement in what you just wrote.

Additionally, there is no "flow up" from any Delta Connection carrier as JoeMerchant implied, only preferential interviewing.


I have heard that Anderson is not a fan of 50 seat RJ's... I hope this comes to fruition with this plan. There are just way too many of them around widgetland.
 
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Additionally, there is no "flow up" from any Delta Connection carrier as JoeMerchant implied, only preferential interviewing.


....what's the difference? ASA pilots are flowing up....they are interviewing and getting hired at the bottom of the list....

The only difference is that if mainline pilots get furloughed they can't bump me back.....it's a win/win.......
 
There are several carriers operating rj's

Comair (wholly owned)
ASA
Skywest
Chataqua
Republic

I'm sure I'm missin one.....

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Mesa, XJT, and PNCL....actually just about everyone is operating RJs for Delta......where is that Brand Scope (BS)........
 

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