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GEORGE DUBYA

GEORGE DUBYA

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Why are they hiring regional Fo's and not people with turbine PIC? Does the place suck that much? I know a ton of captains who have applied and no call and I see here online guys with no turbine pic what give? Cheap labor?
 
Not sure why. I had a Spirit guy in the j/s and he said that they liked glass and jet time. Take that for whats it's worth. I do know 2 rj FO's that got hired there with 0 TPIC.
 
At AIR-Inc Atlanta, they told me and two of my coworkers(w/>5000 jet) "No glass? Thanks, but no thanks".
 
Who's hiring without 1000PIC requirement? Nobody, So those who get hired are without a 1000PIC are kinda stuck. Contract also says you need 4000TT to upgrade. Not sure how much that sticks. However, this would stop a turnover problem. From a companies standpoint, pretty smart. Ask the former US Air guys how hard it was to get a job with 10000 hrs with only 900 Turbine PIC.
 
Let's see...who is hiring without 1,000 hours of turbine PIC time. Just to name a few...

Continental
Delta
Northwest
United
US Airways
 
That glass sure is tricky to figure out.
 
GEORGE DUBYA said:
Why are they hiring regional Fo's and not people with turbine PIC? Does the place suck that much?quote]

Yes, it sure does. In fact, you should call our CP and ask him that personally. After all, if you're a Captain, he should hire you and all of your buddies you mention on the spot.

If I were you, I'd use that exact verbiage, "Why does Spirit suck that much...?"

Good luck with the job search...

gator
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So, why hire only low time, non-type-rated FO-types with no PIC? Critterair is correct. From a management standpoint, they're being smart. How many places are these newhires likely to go if they have no PIC and no other options. It's almost like signing a bond there because they have no other likely opportunities until they've upgraded at Spirit. Rather than hire a guy with a ton of turbine PIC time who may be using the place as a short-term stop on the way to a "major".

I'd bet Spirit's not the only company doing this.
 
RJP said:
So, why hire only low time, non-type-rated FO-types with no PIC? Critterair is correct. From a management standpoint, they're being smart. How many places are these newhires likely to go if they have no PIC and no other options. It's almost like signing a bond there because they have no other likely opportunities until they've upgraded at Spirit. Rather than hire a guy with a ton of turbine PIC time who may be using the place as a short-term stop on the way to a "major".

I'd bet Spirit's not the only company doing this.
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They do hire captains with > 1k PIC. We had 2 in class and they don't even live in any of our bases.

But if you show up in ATL after standing in the Southwest line for 4 hours and tell them you only ever wanted to work at NK, but you live 2 min from ORD, don't want to move and have a 737 type and no clue about where we fly... I guess it won't happen. Same thing: If you are in our cafeteria waiting for your interview and keep talking about how you are looking for something temprary until you get to XY legacy then they will send you home. I don't blame them.
 
GEORGE DUBYA said:
Why are they hiring regional Fo's and not people with turbine PIC? Does the place suck that much? I know a ton of captains who have applied and no call and I see here online guys with no turbine pic what give? Cheap labor?
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I can't imagine why they wouldn't hire you with this attitude.

I have 3 types no failed checkrides and 1000 pic turbine. I have applications out maybe I should start a thread over on a few boards where I would like to work. I am ENTITLED to a job. Give me a break. Have some class.
 
Hey George Dubya good to see you can move over to the LLC board and mange to piss them off too! Go back to PQI and continue to be a tool, where the internet doesn't work and we dont have to deal with YOU!
 
Folks I know of that went to Spirit after being furloughed never came back.
I met a bunch training for the Bus in MIA, and everyone seemed happy to be there.
It's their ball and their bat, so I'd say the hiring minimums and decisions are up to them. You are on the outside looking in. Do airlines make exceptions to their rules? I think so. I do know one thing, and that is you'll never get a job that you don't apply for.
I'd get rid of the chip on the shoulder before showing up, though. Just my .02
 
Hi!

My buddy just got hired, and he is a Regional capt-he had about 1200-1400 PIC turbine-mostly jet, but some tprop. He has about 4000 TT.

cliff
GRB
 
Maybe they are being smart and are getting tired of the FO's getting typed and running at the first chance...
 
Smart would be not typing people day 1. That's like giving a girl your credit card on the first date. No bueno.

Hiring Riddle grads definetly isn't the answer.
 
I know a bunch of low time FOs (less than 2500TT and 0 PIC) that have gotten hired there. Also know a few high time folks that got rejected. Their plan is simple...hire low time people with little or no PIC time so they have nowhere else to go. Unless they really feel like somebody is going to stay, they aren't going to take high time applicants cause they are the ones that are going to bolt at the first chance. I don't see them changing their hiring practices anytime soon.
 
Due to the fact that so many Spirit pilots have left for "greener" pastures one of the thoughts is that they are hiring low time FO's because they wont be able to bail. Not sure if this is true, just something I have heard.
 
Maybe they shouldn't rearrange domiciles around and expect people to just pick up and move.
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It is all to save money and reduce costs...hotel costs not being one of those costs since there seem to be just as many DTW, ACY, LGA and SJU overnights for FLL crews...smart, really smart.

I say for anyone wanting to come here save your effort for FedEx or UPS since all we seem to do is red eye turns just like FedEx and UPS but we make 60% less.
 
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Mike Oxlong said:
It is all to save money and reduce costs...hotel costs not being one of those costs since there seem to be just as many DTW, ACY, LGA and SJU overnights for FLL crews...smart, really smart.

I say for anyone wanting to come here save your effort for FedEx or UPS since all we seem to do is red eye turns just like FedEx and UPS but we make 60% less.
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Of course it's to save costs. Just don't expect people to go along with it. As far as those redeyes...for 40K/yr....the riddlebrats can have it.
 

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