CHQ CRJs

[sweptback]

Heard from a friend there that you are losing your CRJs? He didn't seem to know much more other than they will be phased out. Any truth to this? What are you guys replacing them with? (don't say the E-Jets for CAL!)

 

[ceo_of_the_sofa]

E-Jets for CAL (j/k)

All gone by 2010, or so Bedford said in the latest earnings/analyst call.

 

[flyboyzz1]

unless they find those 50 seat Ejets I have a feeling Continental pilot will poop on that one...plus I'm pretty sure continental hates republic and will ditch them asap

 

[V1cutsrfun]

unless they find those 50 seat Ejets I have a feeling Continental pilot will poop on that one...plus I'm pretty sure continental hates republic and will ditch them asap

You are correct for 2 reasons....

1. a lot of the guys/gals at currently at CO are former expressjet'ers.... That said...look at there last contract...tell me if you think they are not going to sit idle while new hires get no health insurance for the first 6 months....and DAL pays more for first year pay... Point being they know what they want on a contract... Scope erosion is one of the subjects that will remain....

2. Look at the board next time you are in B terminal...lots of canceled flights from the Bedford bunch....

My .02

V1

 

[flyguy81]

i'm pretty sure you're retarded and good riddance to the crj's

 

[flyboyzz1]

i'm pretty sure you're retarded and good riddance to the crj's

Don't know who that was for but.... Do you know who the number one express jet charter customer is? Bing bing bing CHQ. How much in fines are you guys paying to continental because you can't keep your end of the contract? Say what you want but i'm pretty sure you will never fly anything bigger for continental.

 

[Airline Driver]

Don't know who that was for but.... Do you know who the number one express jet charter customer is? Bing bing bing CHQ. How much in fines are you guys paying to continental because you can't keep your end of the contract? Say what you want but i'm pretty sure you will never fly anything bigger for continental.

I guess only time will tell!!!!

 

[FSIGRAD]

You are correct for 2 reasons....

1. a lot of the guys/gals at currently at CO are former expressjet'ers.... That said...look at there last contract...tell me if you think they are not going to sit idle while new hires get no health insurance for the first 6 months....and DAL pays more for first year pay... Point being they know what they want on a contract... Scope erosion is one of the subjects that will remain....

2. Look at the board next time you are in B terminal...lots of canceled flights from the Bedford bunch....

My .02

V1

You guys are just making stuff up now. BB posts performance numbers for all codeshares and CO numbers are in line with all partners, mid to high 90%s. As far as former XJT pilots at CO caring about what happens to Expressjet to the point of voting on contract issues...enjoy that fantasy.

 

[Popeye0537]

Heard from a friend there that you are losing your CRJs? He didn't seem to know much more other than they will be phased out. Any truth to this? What are you guys replacing them with? (don't say the E-Jets for CAL!)

We are going to replace them with E-jets...the 50 seat type. We have several spares comming over from other code share partners. If thats not enough, I'm sure we can pick up some XR's from Express when the return some of the 69 on the brainded side.(this is not a dig on you guys, the writing is on the wall)

I know that the CRJ is a superior product to the lawn dart after operating both of them and pax will miss them although M/X won't.

 

[spg2bmd]

Paper airplanes would be quite effective as well.

 

[erikgigem]

E-Jets for CAL (j/k)

All gone by 2010, or so Bedford said in the latest earnings/analyst call.

The CRJs were on lease at Chautauqua and the company never intended to keep them for any long-term period. They are being returned as their leases expire.

 

[flightinst]

unless they find those 50 seat Ejets I have a feeling Continental pilot will poop on that one...plus I'm pretty sure continental hates republic and will ditch them asap

not any more than they hate XJT.....

 

[Jetjockey]

I'm sure BB was praying that the CAL pilots would give up scope. BB has a better chance of meeting Jesus.

 

[atr42flyer]

if United and Continental hook up im sure that would open the door to more e-jets.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

unless they find those 50 seat Ejets I have a feeling Continental pilot will poop on that one...plus I'm pretty sure continental hates republic and will ditch them asap

not any more than they hate XJT.....

Horrible payload numbers, horrible on time, horrible completion factor. AND they still hate XJT just as much.

I'd say CAL did very well in their planning, because they have been anticipating a merge with UAL for years, didn't want to keep a regional contract if they didn't have to. Well done.

 

[rumrunner300]

I'm sure BB was praying that the CAL pilots would give up scope. BB has a better chance of meeting Jesus.

Are you kidding?? Bedford KNOWS Jesus. And so do I!

Granted, the Jesus I know does the lawn.

 

[ParrotheadPilot]

2. Look at the board next time you are in B terminal...lots of canceled flights from the Bedford bunch....

My .02

V1

Pretty funny you say that...guess you don't get to Cleveland much. Seems every time I'm there Commutair has the most delayed/cxled, then XJT, then CHQ....and as someone already said the CRJs were all on short term leases. CHQ losing then was planned

 

[flyguy81]

Don't know who that was for but.... Do you know who the number one express jet charter customer is? Bing bing bing CHQ. How much in fines are you guys paying to continental because you can't keep your end of the contract? Say what you want but i'm pretty sure you will never fly anything bigger for continental.

maybe the CRJ on time and performance is crap, but as far as I'm told the ERJ is perfectly fine. All I know about the CRJ's are that they are a bunch of POS's. We wouldn't have them if your CEO would have given the planes back. While admirable in trying to prevent furloughs and keep morale up, the fact you are pulling planes to feed your charter ops kinda proves that that branded stuff most likely won't last long-term. Sucks for the pilot group, but you can't make money in a 50 seater with oil at 100/barrel.

I don't want to fly anything big for CO anyway. Not that I care cause I wouldn't go to CO ever anyway. Bases suck and I think not paying for insurance for 6 months while you make 30/hr is absolutely crap. Most of the express guys are great, but some of you need to get over the "holier than thou" attitudes. It was never your flying, it was a business decision. Get over it.

 

[n52gp]

maybe the CRJ on time and performance is crap, but as far as I'm told the ERJ is perfectly fine. All I know about the CRJ's are that they are a bunch of POS's. We wouldn't have them if your CEO would have given the planes back. While admirable in trying to prevent furloughs and keep morale up, the fact you are pulling planes to feed your charter ops kinda proves that that branded stuff most likely won't last long-term. Sucks for the pilot group, but you can't make money in a 50 seater with oil at 100/barrel.

I don't want to fly anything big for CO anyway. Not that I care cause I wouldn't go to CO ever anyway. Bases suck and I think not paying for insurance for 6 months while you make 30/hr is absolutely crap. Most of the express guys are great, but some of you need to get over the "holier than thou" attitudes. It was never your flying, it was a business decision. Get over it.

flyguy81,

whose has the "holier than thou "attitude now? get over it!!! stay at chq

 

[flyboyzz1]

maybe the CRJ on time and performance is crap, but as far as I'm told the ERJ is perfectly fine. All I know about the CRJ's are that they are a bunch of POS's. We wouldn't have them if your CEO would have given the planes back. While admirable in trying to prevent furloughs and keep morale up, the fact you are pulling planes to feed your charter ops kinda proves that that branded stuff most likely won't last long-term. Sucks for the pilot group, but you can't make money in a 50 seater with oil at 100/barrel.

I don't want to fly anything big for CO anyway. Not that I care cause I wouldn't go to CO ever anyway. Bases suck and I think not paying for insurance for 6 months while you make 30/hr is absolutely crap. Most of the express guys are great, but some of you need to get over the "holier than thou" attitudes. It was never your flying, it was a business decision. Get over it.

Just FYI I don't work for Express Jet