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Can we now get serious about increasing FO pay? Your upgrade may not be that close!! Especially if they sell these aircraft, which is sounds like they will.
 
when you guys gonna get a contract...it's been 3 years now...or u just waitn for AMR CAL and UAL to lead the way back up..
 
naw... just waitin for the new leadership to get trained and begin an all new negotiation front.... good things come to those who wait.... (i guess)...

UAL lead the way ? right.
 
when you guys gonna get a contract...it's been 3 years now...or u just waitn for AMR CAL and UAL to lead the way back up..

We are working on it. Just finished some housekeeping. You know, rejecting a couple of TA's, recalling a president and BOD. Re-electing a president and BOD, Getting a brand new NC...you know little stuff like that. Hardly what I would call waiting for someone else to lead the way. More like making sure we get it right.
 
AirTran cuts growth..... big surprise... Had to be blind not to see that coming... recession looming.... ticket prices rising.... jet fuel prices exploding...

Bummer on the movement regardless.. I dont think the music has stopped completely.... just get ready to grab your chair !!
 
AT FO"S its essential to fill out the survey on the NPA website. Dont let this important opportunity pass you by. You will be in the right seat for longer than you think.
 
can someone cut n paste the article? my phone won't go to the blog site...

Thanks

TC
 
More AirTran growth cuts coming in February

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AirTran Airways President and Chief Executive Officer Bob Fornaro said this morning that the Orlando-based airline expects to pull back on its 2008 growth plans even further in the "next week or two" to help compensate for rising fuel prices.
Fast-growing AirTran has already cut its projected 2008 growth rate once before because of soaring fuel bills. But the airline's current target of 10 percent growth in 2009 "may be too high," Fornaro said in a presentation at the Raymond James Growth Airline Conference.
AirTran's plans currently call for it to add 10 new Boeing 737s this year. But Fornaro said that "we are talking to other carriers right now about aircraft," indicating that AirTran is negotiating to sell off some jets.
Fornaro said AirTran expects to reduce its 2009 and 2010 growth plans, as well.
 
Any idea what the upgrade time and time on reserve for a new-hire in the next couple of months would be? Just looking at the number of planes and pilots that AAI currently has I would think upgrade will go to 8-10 years if deliveries slow or stop. I guess the good thing about AAI is that when things get better they will increase growth quickly. It seems the FO rates are somewhat low which is understandable with the traditionally fast upgrades, will a slowdown in growth increase FO attrition? Does anybody think that there's a chance the airline will actually downsize?

Thanks
 
Fam... I would be suprised to see 8-10 year upgrades at AAI. Besides, this industry has a way of flip flopping overnight. If fuel drops overnight or if DAL merges with someone, you can bet AAI will be there to pick up the slack. I don't believe AAI is going to downsize at all either. The 10% growth in 2008 was the highest growth rate of any airline. AAI is just getting in line with everyone else. AAI can also sell 737's for more than they paid for them, selling them would actually make a profit for AAI. My guess is that upgrade is going to head towards 5 or 6 years. But then again, this is the airlines. Tomorrow is another day, and if the US heads into a recession, who knows. It going to be a double edged sword for the airlines. Fuel demand is going to go down so fuel prices will go down, yet pax traffic will decline as well.. Too bad fuel prices won't drop while passenger demand increases... We can always dream.
 

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