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Delta Adds Continental to Merger Options

By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/31/2008 7:12 PM EST
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As it pursues its consolidation strategy, Delta (DAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) is talking with a variety of carriers including Continental (CAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating).
Those talks so far have been preliminary, and have not advanced as far as merger discussions with Northwest (NWA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr), according to a person familiar with the situation. However, discussions with Northwest appear to have hit snags, including issues involving the leadership of the combined company.

Delta has also had conversations recently with UAL (UAUA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating), the owner of United Airlines, according to published reports.

In the past, internal Delta consolidation studies have concluded that a merger with Continental would make the most sense, while a deal with Northwest could also have value because it would provide access to the Pacific, according to sources who are familiar with the situation.

Delta bid unsuccessfully for Continental in 1998, then acknowledged it was again studying a merger effort in 2000.

The internal studies also determined that authorities wouldn't permit a merger with United because the combined airline would be too big. However, it is uncertain whether regulators would have the same view today given the rapid expansion of low-fare carriers who might also provide competitive alternatives in the event of legacy carrier mergers.

Additionally, since the internal studies were done, Delta and Continental have both dramatically built their hubs at New York's Kennedy Airport and Newark Liberty International Airport, as well as their trans-Atlantic service from the two hubs.

Publicly, Delta has said it is "analyzing strategic options, including potential consolidation transactions." Delta and Continental declined to speak for this story.
 
Delta Adds Continental to Merger Options

By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
1/31/2008 7:12 PM EST
Click here for more stories by Ted Reed



As it pursues its consolidation strategy, Delta (DAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) is talking with a variety of carriers including Continental (CAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating).
Those talks so far have been preliminary, and have not advanced as far as merger discussions with Northwest (NWA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr), according to a person familiar with the situation. However, discussions with Northwest appear to have hit snags, including issues involving the leadership of the combined company.

Delta has also had conversations recently with UAL (UAUA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr - Rating), the owner of United Airlines, according to published reports.

In the past, internal Delta consolidation studies have concluded that a merger with Continental would make the most sense, while a deal with Northwest could also have value because it would provide access to the Pacific, according to sources who are familiar with the situation.

Delta bid unsuccessfully for Continental in 1998, then acknowledged it was again studying a merger effort in 2000.

The internal studies also determined that authorities wouldn't permit a merger with United because the combined airline would be too big. However, it is uncertain whether regulators would have the same view today given the rapid expansion of low-fare carriers who might also provide competitive alternatives in the event of legacy carrier mergers.

Additionally, since the internal studies were done, Delta and Continental have both dramatically built their hubs at New York's Kennedy Airport and Newark Liberty International Airport, as well as their trans-Atlantic service from the two hubs.

Publicly, Delta has said it is "analyzing strategic options, including potential consolidation transactions." Delta and Continental declined to speak for this story.

Too bad NWA has a controlling interest in CAL and will block any mergers.


Twin Cities Eh??? Oh ya Margie.....they're big control freaks up der doncha no!
 
Looks like one carrier is showing the books to everyone. Gonna be a tough road if they don't dance with someone now that everyone has looked at the books.

Sure you can't legally use that information for competitive gain, but whats a couple billion among friends.
 
Too bad NWA has a controlling interest in CAL and will block any mergers.

Wrong...if NWA and another carrier merge, they lose that "golden share". CAL can purchase anyone without NWA approval. The NWA share only prevents another carrier from purchasing us.
 
Wrong...if NWA and another carrier merge, they lose that "golden share". CAL can purchase anyone without NWA approval. The NWA share only prevents another carrier from purchasing us.

You might want to check your "Facts" on the second and third sentences.

Schwanker
 
Delta knows that CAL can't merge with anyone unless NWA gives up the golden share. Delta is sort of daring NWA to merge with AA, even though AA has an ORD hub between NWA's MSP and DTW hubs.(and a MKE hub with Midwest) So, which one of those hubs would go? Anyone care to guess? And CAL and DL have hubs next to each other---like EWR and JFK, CVG and CLE, and even IAH and ATL have similar flights to Central and South America--which probably wouldn't remain if there was a merger. It is highly unlikely that the DOJ would allow a carrier to have a large JFK and EWR hub---and neither wants to give one of those up. Delta has been stating that they will be the acquirer, and that DL will have an ATL HDQ--or no deal.(every GA Congressman and Senator has said the same) CAL would not be the acquirer, so NWA would have to give up the golden share.

I think this is a bluff to make Steenland think about how much he wants to be incharge of a DL/NWA combo, when Anderson really wants to totally run the show---since other merger partners aren't as appealing. There is still a good chance no mergers will be approved or even occur. The main reason Delta is "exploring" mergers is because the board of directors was appointed by Delta Creditors in BK, and they were known to favor mergers so their own shares would increase in shareholder value. There is a narrow window here, and it may not work out in the long run. A power struggle at the top might derail a DL/NWA combo it seems.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
Delta and CAL have been in contact about a merger for over a year, along with UAL, this is not a secret. And schwank, geshields is correct, NWA can only stop a buyout of CAL, not the other way around, so really NWA has very little to say about it.
 
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

This would not benefit anyone, CAL and DAL don't get what they want, which is a larger Pacific presence.
 
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Looks like one carrier is showing the books to everyone. Gonna be a tough road if they don't dance with someone now that everyone has looked at the books.

Of course DAL is also looking at everyones books.

Actually, there is probably less peering into each others books than you think at this point.
 
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Why did the NWA MEC talk with Larry Kellner on Tuesday? I would think they would meet with the CAL MEC instead. Any NWA guys have an answer?
 
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... good old fashioned stock pump ...

DAL / NWA old news. Need some other action to appease those trying to cash out their claims....

Airlines need to formalize this and open boiler rooms in the G.O. complex with phone bank manned by crew scheduling....
 
these articles are starting to get annoying. For all we know they talked on the phone for a couple of minutes. I am getting tired of all this merger talk. Wake me up when it happens!

later.
 
these articles are starting to get annoying. For all we know they talked on the phone for a couple of minutes. I am getting tired of all this merger talk. Wake me up when it happens!

later.

Very much agreed. Quit whacking off and zip up or seal the deal.
 
The main reason Delta is "exploring" mergers is because the board of directors was appointed by Delta Creditors in BK, and they were known to favor mergers so their own shares would increase in shareholder value.
Bye Bye--General Lee

This is the ONLY reason for a merger.

The Asian Expansion doesn't matter.
"Keep Delta My Delta" doesn't matter.
Fuel prices don't matter.
Pretty new paint jobs don't matter.
The only reason any merger would happen is for a brief spike in shareholder value.
Just gotta keep it all in perspective.
 
This is the ONLY reason for a merger.

The Asian Expansion doesn't matter.
"Keep Delta My Delta" doesn't matter.
Fuel prices don't matter.
Pretty new paint jobs don't matter.
The only reason any merger would happen is for a brief spike in shareholder value.
Just gotta keep it all in perspective.

You forgot
More money in upper managements pocket
 

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