Gemini Class On Feb 27

[astropilot]

Anyone going to that class yet? Any comments on Gemini? QOL and/or problems?

 

[DA-20]

Ya, don't plan on an upgrade for a looooong time.

 

[q100]

Ya, don't plan on an upgrade for a looooong time.

statement based upon?

 

[DA-20]

uhhh... 4airplanes, age 65, 10 guys moving over to the 11. That should cover about 10 years or so.

 

[fokkers&beer]

I know when I was there it was about a 7 yr upgrade.
I loved the airplane and the crews (I was the most junior DC-10 F/O for a couple of years).
The schedules were a little rough. I was typically out 18 days, and typically had 10-13 days off a month.
I loved slummin' around Europe typically with a great crew. It seemed like you had a day or two off between flights to Africa and you could do some cool stuff.
I was just asked by a friend if I would do it again, and my answer is yes. I still miss getting a Gelato and chicken in Oostende with a good crew.
Don't get me wrong however, I'm not about to take off the brown uniform, and don my blue leather jacket again.

 

[fogrunner]

uhhh... 4airplanes, age 65, 10 guys moving over to the 11. That should cover about 10 years or so.

Okay. So, the 2 upgrades currently going on down in MIA for the 11 were hired in 2001. The Feb/March upgrade class includes people hired 09/04.
No one knows how long upgrades will be anywhere.
You can only ever look back, in the space of 2 months we have gone from 7 years down to 3 1/2 years.
Based on someone hired today who knows?

We are going to be running upgrades and new-hires for a while to get the manning up.

 

[DA-20]

...and don't forget UPS and Fed-Ex not planning on hiring anytime soon

 

[fogrunner]

...and don't forget UPS and Fed-Ex not planning on hiring anytime soon

Not everyone goes to UPS or FedEx. We have not had anyone go to FedEx in the last 3 years. One person just left to go to Cargo Italia. I did not realize you had the schedules for upgrades, new hires and transitions.
This could all change if DP sells its DHL holdings in the US. All I am saying is nobody knows the true answer to the question being asked. Right now we are down to 3 1/2 year upgrades. This is only revelant to those hired 3 years ago.

 

[legalalien]

How many dc10's and MD11's do Gemini have?

How many pilots on the seniority list?

 

[av8tor76]

4x4

185ish

 

[DA-20]

I did not realize you had the schedules for upgrades, new hires and transitions
You are right I don't. I Just don,t want anybody drinking the same Kool-Aide I did. And I like keeping a GEMINI thread at the top of the board

 

[fogrunner]

I did not realize you had the schedules for upgrades, new hires and transitions

You are right I don't. I Just don,t want anybody drinking the same Kool-Aide I did. And I like keeping a GEMINI thread at the top of the board

My point is this. No one should be telling prospective candidates they will upgrade in 2, 3, 5 years etc., whether it be myself or someone who does the interviewing.
A few months ago I was told new hires through June, a few days later, through November.
I am sorry you were misled during the interview.

The last 4 GCO pilots to leave have gone to Skybus, JetBlue and Cargo Italia.

 

[fogrunner]

Astropilot

Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 9
Civ/Mil: Civilian
A/C Flown: F-27
Ratings: atp
Total Time: 1800
Posts: 9


Have you been offered a Feb class date or are you asking for someone else? If so Please tell me you have more than 1800 hours.

 

[DA-20]

....and Southern Air

 

[astropilot]

Gemini Class

No, I have about 3500TT 2500 turbine 2200 PIC. Class on feb 27 on the MD11

 

[Reebo]

The last 4 GCO pilots to leave have gone to Skybus, JetBlue and Cargo Italia.

It can't be that bad at Gemini

 

[fogrunner]

Different strokes, for different folks. Some believe Skybus is the next Southwest.... According to one post I read a Jetblue pilot left to go to Skybus... Whatever floats your boat I guess...

 

[Fedora]

Yeah, it's really great here. Why don't you quit what you're doing and join us?

 

[fokkers&beer]

You didn't go to skybus did you Fedora?

 

[IslanderDriver]

What was the interview like? I haven't seen much online about the process yet, at least that is new.

What TT is competitive?