Could ASA crew scheduling be bigger morons?

[John Pennekamp]

Ok, it's 22:20 in MYR and I'm supposed to duty in at 0520. eTrip shows my schedule intact, but Delta.com shows my morning flight cancelled. I call CS and they say "uh, we don't really have anything put together yet, so maybe in a half hour". WTFO?!!! Can't you at least tell me not to wake up at o'dark-thirty for nothing?!!! YOU ARE SUCH MORONS!! The flight is cancelled, and ASA is the last to know about it. It's a wonder how this place stays in business!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Ok, it's 22:20 in MYR and I'm supposed to duty in at 0520. eTrip shows my schedule intact, but Delta.com shows my morning flight cancelled. I call CS and they say "uh, we don't really have anything put together yet, so maybe in a half hour". WTFO?!!! Can't you at least tell me not to wake up at o'dark-thirty for nothing?!!! YOU ARE SUCH MORONS!! The flight is cancelled, and ASA is the last to know about it. It's a wonder how this place stays in business!

.....just go back to the Boathouse......

 

[John Pennekamp]

.....just go back to the Boathouse......

I'd love to... IF ONLY THEY KNEW WHAT THE F WAS GOING ON!!!

 

[Stifler's Mom]

KATL 252320Z 260024 11005KT P6SM OVC100
TEMPO 0205 -PL
FM0500 09004KT 6SM -PLSN BKN050 OVC080
TEMPO 0609 3SM -PLSN OVC030
FM0900 10004KT 3SM -PLSN BKN010 OVC030
TEMPO 0912 1SM -PLSN BKN007
FM1500 23005KT 3SM -DZ BR OVC010
FM1800 27006KT P6SM OVC010


Here we go again. Global warming my ass!!!!!!!!!

 

[FishandFly]

Why didn't they give it cool name at least.. The word "El Ninyo" was far more fun to hear the liberals complain about.

 

[JoeMerchant]

It's on OurASA....they CNXd the morning flights because of the snow again....

 

[JoeMerchant]

Darn....I was going to buy some carbon credits with my tax rebate......Oh wait I don't get one.....

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Ok, it's 22:20 in MYR and I'm supposed to duty in at 0520. eTrip shows my schedule intact, but Delta.com shows my morning flight cancelled. I call CS and they say "uh, we don't really have anything put together yet, so maybe in a half hour". WTFO?!!! Can't you at least tell me not to wake up at o'dark-thirty for nothing?!!! YOU ARE SUCH MORONS!! The flight is cancelled, and ASA is the last to know about it. It's a wonder how this place stays in business!

Poor baby, not getting the attention you want from the hand that feeds you? They canceled (only one L by the way) 50 flights. That's probably 30+ crews they have to figure out what to do with. Relax a little. And btw now everybody who works at ASA now knows who you are in real life. Smooth.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Poor baby, not getting the attention you want from the hand that feeds you? They canceled (only one L by the way) 50 flights. That's probably 30+ crews they have to figure out what to do with. Relax a little. And btw now everybody who works at ASA now knows who you are in real life. Smooth.

You may possibly be a bigger moron than scheduling. Thanks for correcting my spelling, dork. And anybody who doesn't already know who I am is dumber than you.

Now, 30 WHOLE CREWS! Whew! That'll probably take them 8 hours to figure out! Whatever will they do?!!!

Try a better comeback next time, loser.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Oh, and ps, Tool, who are you giving a BJ to in scheduling that you suddenly feel obligated to defend the morons?

 

[buscap]

Dudes!!!

IROPS have always sucked butt and they always will. Ain't worth getting this bent about.

Chill out and enjoy the free day off when you don't get informed. We used to call it LOA 27. I don't know the new and improved contract number.

Chill out and listen to some of that music you guys are always quoting and getting all gay about.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Dudes!!!

IROPS have always sucked butt and they always will. Ain't worth getting this bent about.

Chill out and enjoy the free day off when you don't get informed. We used to call it LOA 27. I don't know the new and improved contract number.

Chill out and listen to some of that music you guys are always quoting and getting all gay about.

Yes, but are IROPS supposed to happen every week?

At least when Northwest takes over, we'll have an airline that doesn't panic over an inch of show running things!

 

[buscap]

I'm wasting my time here I can see....go ahead and get all bent.

And Oh yeah!!!

Things will get so much better when Delta merges with Northwest.

Those guys are so known to run a tight ship!!! I hear they treat their employees and regional partners like one big happy freaki'n family.

Whippity skip-me-up-my-poopper Dooooooo!!!

 

[CA1900]

... They canceled (only one L by the way) ...

Might want to crack that dictionary again, tough guy.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Might want to crack that dictionary again, tough guy.

Two L's = the British/Canadian way to spell it. And frankly I don't see the humour in that.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Oh, and ps, Tool, who are you giving a BJ to in scheduling that you suddenly feel obligated to defend the morons?

Shouldn't you be sleeping?

 

[SilverandSore]

You may possibly be a bigger moron than scheduling. Thanks for correcting my spelling, dork. And anybody who doesn't already know who I am is dumber than you.

Now, 30 WHOLE CREWS! Whew! That'll probably take them 8 hours to figure out! Whatever will they do?!!!

Try a better comeback next time, loser.

Sorry to say, I tend to agree with Tool Crib on this one. You know the saying...walk a mile in another man's shoes....

 

[WalterSobchak]

Sorry to say, I tend to agree with Tool Crib on this one. You know the saying...walk a mile in another man's shoes....

Ditto...

Sked has to wait to find out from dispatch just what exactly is going to happen with that crew before you start getting phone calls from Shaniqua. Last I checked, sked doesn't make operational decisions.

First, the decision to cancel the bank of flights has to be made. The very next thing is to decide what to do with aircraft and crew. Are they going to repo you?...or let you sleep in at the hotel, waiting it out 'til the WX is better? Then, in the case of repo flights, those flights have to be built into multiple systems, block times estimated. and a whole multitude of other things ironed out before sked amends your schedule. Then sked has to figure out all the possible duty time repercussions of the new line.

There are a million factors that could come into play and delay or slow this process. It's not always convenient and it's not always timely. It's not always sked's fault. And, contrary to what your pilot ego sometimes whispers in your ear, it's also not always about you.

Relax, John...things could be alot worse. Hope you got to sleep in this morning.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Just log onto to the ASA live internet feed and see how these decisions are made.

Here's a picture I saved while I watched some Crew Schedulers work some of the 45 cancellations this morning.

Live ASA Feed From Scheduling Department

 

[homerjdispatch]

Ditto...

Sked has to wait to find out from dispatch just what exactly is going to happen with that crew before you start getting phone calls from Shaniqua. Last I checked, sked doesn't make operational decisions.

First, the decision to cancel the bank of flights has to be made. The very next thing is to decide what to do with aircraft and crew. Are they going to repo you?...or let you sleep in at the hotel, waiting it out 'til the WX is better? Then, in the case of repo flights, those flights have to be built into multiple systems, block times estimated. and a whole multitude of other things ironed out before sked amends your schedule. Then sked has to figure out all the possible duty time repercussions of the new line.

There are a million factors that could come into play and delay or slow this process. It's not always convenient and it's not always timely. It's not always sked's fault. And, contrary to what your pilot ego sometimes whispers in your ear, it's also not always about you.

Relax, John...things could be alot worse. Hope you got to sleep in this morning.

He will be too busy trying to catch the Generals post count to sleep....

John, chill out.... What you going to complain agaist next? Maybe your right hand isnt performing up to standards? Do what PBR does. Use the left!

 

[WalterSobchak]

Just log onto to the ASA live internet feed and see how these decisions are made.

Live ASA Feed From Scheduling Department

I'm wearing mine! It's made of tin foil...so it doubles as both thinking cap and defense from the big brother mind readers!

 

[SilverandSore]

Just log onto to the ASA live internet feed and see how these decisions are made.

Here's a picture I saved while I watched some Crew Schedulers work some of the 45 cancellations this morning.

Live ASA Feed From Scheduling Department

Anything bigger than a handful and you're risking a sprained tounge...

He wants the knee-shooters, give him the knee shooters...

 

[John Pennekamp]

Ditto...

Sked has to wait to find out from dispatch just what exactly is going to happen with that crew before you start getting phone calls from Shaniqua. Last I checked, sked doesn't make operational decisions.

First, the decision to cancel the bank of flights has to be made. The very next thing is to decide what to do with aircraft and crew. Are they going to repo you?...or let you sleep in at the hotel, waiting it out 'til the WX is better? Then, in the case of repo flights, those flights have to be built into multiple systems, block times estimated. and a whole multitude of other things ironed out before sked amends your schedule. Then sked has to figure out all the possible duty time repercussions of the new line.

There are a million factors that could come into play and delay or slow this process. It's not always convenient and it's not always timely. It's not always sked's fault. And, contrary to what your pilot ego sometimes whispers in your ear, it's also not always about you.

Relax, John...things could be alot worse. Hope you got to sleep in this morning.

You have a point. It's just frustrating knowing your flight is cancelled, but you still have to wake up at 0430 to "officially" find out. The least they could have done was "notify" me of the cancellation, as I certainly wouldn't be flying out that early. As it turned out, they modified the pairing at about 0030 and I called them. But it shouldn't be like pulling teeth to get told the flight is cancelled and stay in bed in the morning.

 

[Frap]

They canceled (only one L by the way) 50 flights.

So we have wizards on this board who just BUTCHER:

your and you're

there, their and they're

etc. (what the hell is ect.?)

words that end in "s" with an apostrophe...

and you're on this guy for misspelling a word with two common spellings (or is it spelings?)?

Let me go ahead and apologize to you for the approach I flew today 1 knot too fast.

Lighten up, mate.

 

[John Pennekamp]

So we have wizards on this board who just BUTCHER:

your and you're

there, their and they're

etc. (what the hell is ect.?)

words that end in "s" with an apostrophe...

and you're on this guy for misspelling a word with two common spellings (or is it spelings?)?

Let me go ahead and apologize to you for the approach I flew today 1 knot too fast.

Lighten up, mate.

It's to be expected. When a fools like Tool Crib get online, they resort to petty personal attacks and spelling/grammar critiques as an attempt to embarrass the person, hoping to undermine their credibility. This because they know they can't out debate their foe with words that are outside the realm of their tiny minds, so it's the only way they think they can win. I can't help it if he attended public school in the South. Just watch, chuckle and think about why they lost the war.

 

[DrewBlows]

Acronym Help?

I call CS and they say "uh, we don't really have anything put together yet, so maybe in a half hour". WTFO?!!!

What does the 'O' mean in "WTFO"? I was under the impression that WTF meant "What the Fudge", but I can't figure out what the 'O' means.

 

[SilverandSore]

What does the 'O' mean in "WTFO"? I was under the impression that WTF meant "What the Fudge", but I can't figure out what the 'O' means.

O = over...

It's pilot speak for ending the WTF part...

 

[TOOL CRIB]

It's to be expected. When a fools like Tool Crib get online, they resort to petty personal attacks and spelling/grammar critiques as an attempt to embarrass the person, hoping to undermine their credibility. This because they know they can't out debate their foe with words that are outside the realm of their tiny minds, so it's the only way they think they can win. I can't help it if he attended public school in the South. Just watch, chuckle and think about why they lost the war.

Haha, I believe I won the last "debate" we got into. In fact I don't even think you responded.

Looks like I hooked a big one!

 

[DrewBlows]

O = over...

It's pilot speak for ending the WTF part...

Oh yeah, that makes sense, because sometimes when I get to the end of a post I don't know if I should respond or not. If everyone put 'over' at the end of their posts it would end a lot of confusion.

*over*

 

[10nCLR]

You have a point. It's just frustrating knowing your flight is cancelled, but you still have to wake up at 0430 to "officially" find out. The least they could have done was "notify" me of the cancellation, as I certainly wouldn't be flying out that early. As it turned out, they modified the pairing at about 0030 and I called them. But it shouldn't be like pulling teeth to get told the flight is cancelled and stay in bed in the morning.

Maybe:
If crew sched disturbs your legal beauty rest, crews can then say "what are you going to have me do now", when told, they can then say, "oh, by the way, I need my full 8 or 9 hrs of uninterupted rest. Call me later. Click.
Whatever- this thread is boring......