DHL in talks to sell US Unit to FDX

[Jurassic Jet]

Hang on boys.

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKL2417951620080124?rpc=44

 

[SkyMiles]

Hang on to what? More like buh-bye boys! Now where is that resume paper again?

 

[Clyde]

Date Of Hire

 

[SkyMiles]

Date of hire for what?

 

[Jurassic Jet]

Date of hire for what?

I think he meant everyone will be getting a new date of hire when they find a new job.

(I know what he meant, but my statement is more reality)

 

[hvydriver]

I think he meant everyone will be getting a new date of hire when they find a new job.

(I know what he meant, but my statement is more reality)

Yeah. If that happens, your right JJ. I'm taking my DC8 to SDF tonight and claiming sanctuary. It works in the movies, right??

 

[nitefr8dog]

Yeah. If that happens, your right JJ. I'm taking my DC8 to SDF tonight and claiming sanctuary. It works in the movies, right??

The only one who could make this work is ABX. FDX would rather watch DHL destroy itself than spend money helping them, besides FDX is out of money. ABX now has enough lift and moved more freight than this on time! ( I am talking about express freight by 1030 am next day. )

 

[SkyMiles]

Maybe the paper misheard the "sources". Maybe they said ABX, not FDX?!

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

From Air Cargo World


DP to Sell DHL to FedEx: Report
Deutsche Post World Net plans to sell DHL to Fedex and talks are underway, according to a report in the Financial Times Deutschland, which quoted sources familiar with the matter.
The paper quotes a manager within the company as saying that Deutsche Post CEO Klaus Zumwinkel "wants to leave the company in a clean condition" when he retires in November.
Officials at Deutsche Post and FedEx refused to comment on what they described as rumors or speculation.
Financial investment analysts project DHL may lose up to $900 million this year in the United States, where the company has struggled to mount a challenge to UPS and FedEx in the domestic parcel and express market. Deutsche Post said Wednesday it will take an $874 million writedown of the company's value.
Among other internal problems, DHL last week announced layoffs in Germany and this week moved to demand a $93 million payment from its less than friendly ally ABX Air. Michael Fabey
Traffic World

 

[shooter]

This is just a news article. It is not a press release from DP, so it's a bunch of speculation. DP's CFO said just earlier in the week an out right sale of DHL USA is very very unlikely. Plus what would the investors think about selling an ailing portion of the business to a competitor that will more than likely slit your throat when you are not looking for pennies on the dollar? What of the DHL commitment to Ohio with the new by-passes being cut in and tax breaks they have for jobs? You think that is just wipped away by selling a business off? While all of this doom and gloom could play out the way many are seeing it, I find it highly unlikely. There may be a business arrangement with Fedex coming but does it not make more sense for that to be a delivery network? I mean look at the USPS when they sold off their express packages to be flown of Fedex. Christmas packages sat on ramps until January in favor of Fedex customers. Don't you think DHL packages and customers would suffer the same fate? It would be a death blow to DHL in a matter of time. Of course this is all wishful thinking on my part because of all the ILN jobs at stake, but it does not make sense that DP would do that.

My prediction: Fedex and DHL strike a joint delivery agreement where each will deliver packages in their respective countries while they will still be responsible for selling/sorting/delivering packages to the others stations. i.e. ILN will stay the same but who picks up the packages and drops off the packages at the outstations change to Fedex.

(I'm a sucker for hope)

 

[MACHTRANSDUCER]

my wife's second cousins husband's daughter's boyfriends mom who was at walmart said she heard from her great uncles best friend who works at generations that he saw a fedex truck in ILN yesterday.... but im guessing what we all really want is jurassic jet to post another reply so we can all admire the avatar!!:beer:

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

What of the DHL commitment to Ohio with the new by-passes being cut in and tax breaks they have for jobs?

I think that's the first time I've ever seen "DHL" and "committment" used in the same sentence.

Seriously? That question might best be answered by some of the lawmakers in Frankfort who gave DHL huge tax incentives to build their new $240,000,000 hub at CVG...a hub they moved out of within 2 years.

 

[TWA]

Yeah, um, the Germans have absolutely no local interest whatsoever. All they see is what appears on the spread sheet in front of them.

ABX needs to stop cuttin their planes up, it very well may be their show again.

 

[shooter]

I think that's the first time I've ever seen "DHL" and "committment" used in the same sentence.

Seriously? That question might best be answered by some of the lawmakers in Frankfort who gave DHL huge tax incentives to build their new $240,000,000 hub at CVG...a hub they moved out of within 2 years.

I don't know Dan, anything can happen. My prediction stands.

 

[EuroWheenie]

We've been bleeding Dollars by the billions over the years in the US market. The purchase of ABX was supposed to turn the tide, but sadly no substantial improvment was achieved.

It is also worth nothing that whilst ABX (Ground) have contributed to the DHL family, ABX (Air) have always been a problem child, and I'm not only thinking about the disaster that was (and to a degree still is) the ILN Hub. Integrating ABX is a major headache; somehow the top boffins in ABX still think they are a fully independent airline (which is true only on paper) and can run the show they way they like. There is a large amount of animosity towards ABX (Air) in the global HQ.

ASTAR, on the other hand, has for the last few years only been a positive experience.

It would not come as any surprise to those of us who work with DHL on the eastern side of the great salty divide to see DPWN spin-off the US domestice part of the DHL business, as this is the area that has resulted in DHL posting negative results for years. There will still be a DHL presence in the US, but only for international shipments.

By eliminating the US domestic business we can, hopefully, also rid ourselves of ABX. If the sell goes through, I predict ASTAR will be tasked with doing the international flying to North, Central and South America from the US.

Longhaul flying will, most likely, be performed by LH Cargo, Polar, DHL Air or EAT (the forthcoming 767 operation) and Newco (the forthcoming 777 operation based in LEJ).

 

[Box-Hauler]

Euro,

How will your beloved DHL survive in the world market if 50% of all there business touches the U.S. Do you really believe that the company in Iowa will use DHL if they only fly out of JFK and LA. The problem with all of Europe is they do not understand the US market. We want our meal super sized, we like our truck super sized and we want our packages delivered the next day. We will accept a 10am delivery but we want it there by 9. The next week will not cut it. If DHL pulls out of the US market within 5 years they will be dead, and the rest of the world will realize the benefits of next day service via FedEx or UPS.

 

[EuroWheenie]

Box,

I would hardly claim to be in love with DHL, and I quite think the feeling is mutual.

DHL will not give up on the US, and will still be delivering freight to all required destinations. But only international shipments; we'll not be competing with the FedUPS on domestic freight. So your super-size loving countrymen can still expect to see a yellow van delivering documents from Europe or Asia, but the driver is not going to accept a package going from Ohio to Delaware.

Since the major growth markets are to be found in Asia, and given that DHL has a rather strong presence there, I will hazard a guess that a the pull-out from domestic US service will prove to be an excellent choice, also in 5 years.

Maybe you are right, maybe us Europeans don't understand the US market. I could probably say the same for US understanding of the European market, but that's not important. If Europeans don't understand the market, as you claim, wouldn't it then be better to pull out?.

 

[shooter]

Box,

I would hardly claim to be in love with DHL, and I quite think the feeling is mutual.

DHL will not give up on the US, and will still be delivering freight to all required destinations. But only international shipments; we'll not be competing with the FedUPS on domestic freight. So your super-size loving countrymen can still expect to see a yellow van delivering documents from Europe or Asia, but the driver is not going to accept a package going from Ohio to Delaware.

Since the major growth markets are to be found in Asia, and given that DHL has a rather strong presence there, I will hazard a guess that a the pull-out from domestic US service will prove to be an excellent choice, also in 5 years.

Maybe you are right, maybe us Europeans don't understand the US market. I could probably say the same for US understanding of the European market, but that's not important. If Europeans don't understand the market, as you claim, wouldn't it then be better to pull out?.

Place a wager on that weenie?

 

[shooter]

Box,

I would hardly claim to be in love with DHL, and I quite think the feeling is mutual.

DHL will not give up on the US, and will still be delivering freight to all required destinations. But only international shipments; we'll not be competing with the FedUPS on domestic freight. So your super-size loving countrymen can still expect to see a yellow van delivering documents from Europe or Asia, but the driver is not going to accept a package going from Ohio to Delaware.

Since the major growth markets are to be found in Asia, and given that DHL has a rather strong presence there, I will hazard a guess that a the pull-out from domestic US service will prove to be an excellent choice, also in 5 years.

Maybe you are right, maybe us Europeans don't understand the US market. I could probably say the same for US understanding of the European market, but that's not important. If Europeans don't understand the market, as you claim, wouldn't it then be better to pull out?.

Place a wager on that weenie?

 

[shooter]

Box,

I would hardly claim to be in love with DHL, and I quite think the feeling is mutual.

DHL will not give up on the US, and will still be delivering freight to all required destinations. But only international shipments; we'll not be competing with the FedUPS on domestic freight. So your super-size loving countrymen can still expect to see a yellow van delivering documents from Europe or Asia, but the driver is not going to accept a package going from Ohio to Delaware.

Since the major growth markets are to be found in Asia, and given that DHL has a rather strong presence there, I will hazard a guess that a the pull-out from domestic US service will prove to be an excellent choice, also in 5 years.

Maybe you are right, maybe us Europeans don't understand the US market. I could probably say the same for US understanding of the European market, but that's not important. If Europeans don't understand the market, as you claim, wouldn't it then be better to pull out?.

Place a wager on that weenie?