How do negotiations work at SKYW?

[FishandFly]

Could the SKYW guys clarify this for me...

Say you vote this pay-raise down and the company refuses to budge.

You refuse to budge and the company refuses to budge. What happens then?

 

[viper548]

It's basically take it or leave it. If it's voted down management will shuffle the money around and come out with a new package. Last time I believe it was a 1.0% raise for everyone. It was voted down then they came back with 1.2% for the jet and 0 for the EMB. That time it passed.

 

[Nevets]

Could the SKYW guys clarify this for me...

Say you vote this pay-raise down and the company refuses to budge.

You refuse to budge and the company refuses to budge. What happens then?

"How do negotiations work at SKYW?"

It doesn't!

"You refuse to budge and the company refuses to budge. What happens then?"

The last best offer is imposed.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

 

[SkyNation]

we take whatever we're given. after 36 years, that process has resulted in SkyWest pilots getting a better combination of pay, benefits, career advancement, stability and prospects for the future than just about anyone else at the regional level.

couldn't help myself, either

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

"How do negotiations work at SKYW?"

It doesn't!

Yep!

They keep voting down alpa and SkyWest will keep buying union companies and screwing the other pilots. They don't want to merge the lists, that's why the SkyWest folk vote down alpa.

Great growth and business plan there from a MANAGEMENT standpoint.

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

we take whatever we're given. after 36 years, that process has resulted in SkyWest pilots getting a better combination of pay, benefits, career advancement, stability and prospects for the future than just about anyone else at the regional level.

couldn't help myself, either

Yeah nation- take it! "Who's yo daddy?", take it! Take it like the good little beeyotch that you are! You must be KB's first. (He'll not forget you ). Why are you on F. I. ? Surely with the union drive over the company's not paying you to sell their kool aid anymore.

I thought you were on my ignore list. Oh well, that's an easy fix.

 

[cfi_greg]

Bla, Bla Bla. The union drive is over so can we go one thread without blaming #hit on ALPA or not ALPA.

 

[Bako Cap]

My goodness, I bet the flames go at least 5 pages.

 

[Nevets]

we take whatever we're given. after 36 years, that process has resulted in SkyWest pilots getting a better combination of pay, benefits, career advancement, stability and prospects for the future than just about anyone else at the regional level.

couldn't help myself, either

I know you can't help yourself. That is part of the problem.:laugh:

Like I've said, you can make that argument but others can make a good argument that its not so. The point is that with Skywests 35 years of success and $750 million in the bank and making $150 million a year, you SHOULD be thee undisputed, hands down, no doubt about it, best airline to work for without having animosity always pointed towards you. And while you're at it, help the rest of the industry to boot.

But alas...

 

[Nevets]

Bla, Bla Bla. The union drive is over so can we go one thread without blaming #hit on ALPA or not ALPA.

The union drive may be over but organizing never stops!

 

[XPOO]

I know you can't help yourself. That is part of the problem.:laugh:

Like I've said, you can make that argument but others can make a good argument that its not so. The point is that with Skywests 35 years of success and $750 million in the bank and making $150 million a year, you SHOULD be thee undisputed, hands down, no doubt about it, best airline to work for without having animosity always pointed towards you. And while you're at it, help the rest of the industry to boot.

But alas...

Newsflash....it already is, Steven. Thanks for your concern from your ExpressJet cockpit. What is going to happen when SkyWest takes your company's Delta flying out of LAX?

 

[Jmoney]

Write?

we take whatever we're given. after 36 years, that process has resulted in SkyWest pilots getting a better combination of pay, benefits, career advancement, stability and prospects for the future than just about anyone else at the regional level.

couldn't help myself, either

You are one of the very biggest tools ever to hit this board-jackass! Just give it a year or two and see where you are at. What they give, they can (and will) take away just as quickly. Just give them some time.

BTW-Don't expect any help or sympathy from all your fellow "brother" pilots around here you stuck a chubby to. I wouldn't expect preferential hiring anywhere else when the bottom falls out.
-Good luck with that-toobucket!

 

[Morning Wood]

Yep!

They keep voting down alpa and SkyWest will keep buying union companies and screwing the other pilots. They don't want to merge the lists, that's why the SkyWest folk vote down alpa.

Great growth and business plan there from a MANAGEMENT standpoint.

Two different operating certificates. Why would the seniority merge?

 

[Brasilia Flyer]

You are one of the very biggest tools ever to hit this board-jackass! Just give it a year or two and see where you are at. What they give, they can (and will) take away just as quickly. Just give them some time.

BTW-Don't expect any help or sympathy from all your fellow "brother" pilots around here you stuck a chubby to. I wouldn't expect preferential hiring anywhere else when the bottom falls out.
-Good luck with that-toobucket!

Is that the best you can do? I love it when people who can't come up with something intelligent to say just attack with name calling!

 

[XPOO]

when the bottom falls out

Great, here goes another "The Sky is Going to Fall Soon, You'll See" thread.

 

[BOHICAgain]

It's basically take it or leave it. If it's voted down management will shuffle the money around and come out with a new package. Last time I believe it was a 1.0% raise for everyone. It was voted down then they came back with 1.2% for the jet and 0 for the EMB. That time it passed.

So last time the Jet guys screwed over the prop guys. What a great pilot group all for .2% more.

Hopefully skyway's flying is the last you will get

 

[viper548]

Yep, that's what happened.

 

[Gnarloooo]

Newsflash....it already is, Steven. Thanks for your concern from your ExpressJet cockpit. What is going to happen when SkyWest takes your company's Delta flying out of LAX?

XPOO....Please for the love of God, SHUT THE EFF UP!!!!!!! Don't pretend you speak for the pilots of SkyWest, and please don't anybody else think that this dispatcher, who routinely gives you release fuel that would make you fall out of the sky halfway to your destination, speaks for any of us. Once and for all XPOO, job growth at the expense of others is NEVER GOOD! You are a bad man with a huge mouth. Your rantings are trying to give all SkyWest pilots a bad name, and you are not even one of us! So please, just go away.

 

[XPOO]

Gnarloooo....

You do a pretty good job at giving pilots a bad name all by yourself. You don't need my help.

 

[ShutupandFly]

Just think, if Sky West Pilots had voted in Alpa they could be just as happy as our pilots over here at Pinnacle.

 

[Jon Rivoli]

This pay proposal is about exactly what I expected. Last time it was the Brasillia guys that got screwed, this time it's the jet FO's. The proposal will pass 50.5% to 49.5% same as last time. If they put forward a package that gets 100% support they are being too generous with the stockholders money. They have their finger on the pulse of the pilot group and know just how much to give to whom to get it passed.

 

[CA1900]

Here's how it works, guys:

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[PBRstreetgang]

couldn't help myself, either

Sure you can, stick the lit end of a shotgun into your mouth and blow!

 

[Flyerdan]

Sure you can, stick the lit end of a shotgun into your mouth and blow!

Very rude as usual.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Its a double barrel, you can try your luck on the other barrel, no charge!

 

[Flyerdan]

Thanks Sweetie!

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Could the SKYW guys clarify this for me...

Say you vote this pay-raise down and the company refuses to budge.

You refuse to budge and the company refuses to budge. What happens then?

Its like a Utah version of a Kabuki theater. The company shills(SAPA), sell like there is no tomorrow, lots of hand wringing and wailing, throw a little drama(new codeshare), threats(we don't think they will go for more, just take this and we will work on the next paypackage). 10 years and its still the same old stuff, I wonder what this years sales sound bite will be? The deal me an Ace bite will be hard to top! The sky is following, the sky is falling, whatever.
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Thanks Sweetie!

Ratings: Commercial, CL65SIC
Says it all!
PBR

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Just think, if Sky West Pilots had voted in Alpa they could be just as happy as our pilots over here at Pinnacle.

Why don't you shut up and type, isn't there a flight to follow or sumptin?
PBR

 

[Gr82Aviate]

It's basically take it or leave it. If it's voted down management will shuffle the money around and come out with a new package. Last time I believe it was a 1.0% raise for everyone. It was voted down then they came back with 1.2% for the jet and 0 for the EMB. That time it passed.

Wrong! The first time it was 1.2% for everyone, and they came back with 1.0000000000% for the crj and the big 0.000000000000000000000000% for the EMB!