What happens to the Compass flowthrough, if NWA Merges?

[Superpilot92]

Of course, and that contract will have to be negotiated so when Occum's Razor claims that every contract provision will survive intact, he's either being disingenuous or naive. Isn't that right?



I'm in ALPA and that protection should exist within the union - no? If flow throughs are such a good deal for the profession, why aren't Delta, Northwest, Continental and United Airline pilots exploring mutual flow throughs with the coming merger?

The compass and mesaba flowthroughs were being developed well before any of this merger stuff came out. Also NWA started Compass and bought Mesaba. USair and AA both own regionals and have a "flowthrough" aka "flowback"

 

[~~~^~~~]

I think there should not be a flow through. Should be one list, negotiated with the merger. All the wholly owned pilots on one list, one bargaining representative, one management, on brand.

Management can run Compass, Comair, Mesaba, whatever they please, but pilots will be on the Company's seniority list. This provides job security during fleet renewal and rational career progression.

What do you pilots think? Those who think this is a good idea need to let their status representatives know.

 

[N2264J]

Management can run Compass, Comair, Mesaba, whatever they please, but pilots will be on the Company's seniority list.

This point can not be overstated. They don't have to merge the companys, just merge the lists.

 

[TurboAWD]

That is exactly how it should be.

ONE FREEKING LIST!!!

 

[Erlanger]

bump!

 

[spg2bmd]

Good luck with that. Hell of an idea though.

 

[Papa Woody]

My insiders are telling me that Delta pilots are working hard to get all the regional guys flowthru.

What a great bunch of professionals!

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Even comair? wow. what is in the water over there?

 

[spg2bmd]

Wow, trying to help you get on with the airline? We sometimes have trouble getting the jumpseat with United!

 

[John Pennekamp]

You all are amazing. This is nothing but mental masturbation to debate something like this.

WHO KNOWS what will happen to Compass? Probably nobody but Anderson and Steenland. And it's pointless for y'all to chuck spears at each other over it. It CERTAINLY isn't going to get resolved here on Flightinfo!

 

[GOULET!]

WHO KNOWS what will happen to Compass? Probably nobody but Anderson and Steenland. And it's pointless for y'all to chuck spears at each other over it. It CERTAINLY isn't going to get resolved here on Flightinfo!

Every important aviation decision in recent history has been solved in these very forums sir.

 

[captgibbles]

Has anyone heard what the NWA Union's plans are for negotiating in Compass' Behalf? I mean they represent the Compass pilot group, shouldn't they have Compass pilot's best interest in mind too?

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Has anyone heard what the NWA Union's plans are for negotiating in Compass' Behalf? I mean they represent the Compass pilot group, shouldn't they have Compass pilot's best interest in mind too?

You mean by doing something like facilitating a transfer of mainline DC-9 flying to ERJs? Pretty sure they already did that. Anything else you want, or the whittling down of my fleet while yours grows and grows enough for you? Just curious.

 

[WSurf]

USair and AA both own regionals and have a "flowthrough" aka "flowback"

Really??? Hell I work for one of the WO'ed at US Airways and didn't know that. I guess I will tell everyone tomarrow we have a flowthru!!

Thanks for the info

 

[Quack]

You mean by doing something like facilitating a transfer of mainline DC-9 flying to ERJs? Pretty sure they already did that. Anything else you want, or the whittling down of my fleet while yours grows and grows enough for you? Just curious.

Man you can make that argument for every regional out there. Skywest, Comair, PSA, it's been heard before. if you really want to complain, blame your union for voting Compass in. they held the cards, and it was only going to be a matter of time before nwa mgmt got their hands on the 70 seat flying like everyone else. no one at compass is HAPPY to steal flying from mainline. in fact, i wish Compass never would've been formed and mesaba was never offered 900's. those airplanes belong at a major not only at nwa, but at yonited, AA, delta, and USAir. The biggest reasons people are here is because yes RIGHT NOW the upgrade for those hired is short, and a very large majority of the individuals live or want to live in the bases. so please don't say that the compass pilot group is trying to WHITTLE down your D9's so we can propel our growth. it's another supplemental lift airline like the lots of them, and that's all it ever will be. nwa mec holds the keys for compass, they're our union reprensentation. if you guys aren't happy about compass, the first people that fingers should be pointed at is your own union.