Age 60 Exchange - Please Use Caution

[UndauntedFlyer]

From: Chris XXXXXX
To: APAAD
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:56 PM
Subject: Congrats

From the generation that introduced B scales and enjoyed promotion and career movement due to the age 60 rule, now you AXXholes have given us age 65. I hope you have to medically retire before 61. From me too you a heart felt:

FXXK YOU

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Dear Chris,

Your message to APAAD was a publicly vulgar one and not helpful in furthering anyone's enlightenment re the age change issue. APAAD has been working this issue for over a decade, just as ALL airline pilots worked the issue from 1959 to 1980. With the abrogation of pensions, in particular, 60 is an artificially low age to retire. Too, it is based on age rather that health or competency. The list of supporters for change is long, including: APAAD, AARP, EEOC,FAA,SPC, PPF, numerous independent pilot unions, the vast majority of the world... and even ALPA.

It was long due for change and it will, ultimately, give you and others an extra five years of earning power.

I would ask that you refrain from your unprofessional behavior. If you persist, I would be happy to forward your e mails to your Chief Pilot. Perhaps he can assist you in learning the meaning of the word "professional".

Paul XXXXXX, Chairman
APAAD

 

[radarlove]

So Paul Emens wants to bring your chief pilot into the act because you don't agree with him.

Nice.

 

[GoodTimes]

Paul Emens is a little man.

 

[Juniority]

Just a bunch of baby-boomers "getting theirs" at the expense of everyone and everything else.

It really raises my blood pressure to hear a baby-boomer describe anyone from any other generation as being part of the "me generation" I am sure history will view the baby-boomers as the ultimate "me generation"

 

[radarlove]

Speaking of which, the baby boomers (as reported in the paper today) who just became eligible for Social Security are taking the "early money" option, costing them a fortune over the long run, but providing them with instant gratification.

The "greatest generation" turned into the "all about me, give me some, ok give me more" generation.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

paul xxx is a loser. i sure hope chris xxx doesn't worry about paul xxx meaningless comment. undaunted is also a loser for posting this crap.


where does paul xxx loser commute from/to? he better drive to work because he will never get my jumpseat. i don't care if he does call my chief pilot or not.

 

[BigMeat]

Paul Emens? willing to hang another pilot for being unproffessional to APAAD? How low can a pilot get. I can understand maybe involving proffessional standards somehow but that is actually ridiculous. How about you cantact my chief pilot too a**hole. APAAD sucks and so do you. We dont need you snitch types in this industry. I too hope you medical out loser.

 

[Whataburger]

At least nothing was said about old man river, old wrinkley balls, or hip breakages. That's it, I'm telling! So when is this "Cocoon III" adventure in SAT?

 

[tico]

And remember to have all of the co-pilots where this "little paul emens" works to put him on their no-fly list

 

[Mamma]

And remember to have all of the co-pilots where this "little paul emens" works to put him on their no-fly list

That would be Southwest.

 

[LJDRVR]

You know, I'm against the whole age 65 thing, but here's an observation:

Quit acting like a bunch of pussies.

We lost. The competition was better organized, motivated and worked much harder than people who felt sending a "____ you" letter to a fellow pilot was an appropriate or meaningfull thing to do.

 

[UndauntedFlyer]

You know, I'm against the whole age 65 thing, but here's an observation:

Quit acting like a bunch of pussies.

We lost. The competition was better organized, motivated and worked much harder than people who felt sending a "____ you" letter to a fellow pilot was an appropriate or meaningfull thing to do.

This is a good post and one of the most productive seen on FI.

Clearly, LJDRVR is a professional in this business. And he probably even likes flying, likes aviation and his work too. It shows!

 

[LJDRVR]

This is a good post and one of the most productive seen on FI.

Clearly, LJDRVR is a professional in this business. And he probably even likes flying, likes aviation and his work too. It shows!

Dude, you used productive and Flight Info in the same sentence!

Just an observation.

A lot of folks have invested themselves with a viewpoint of:

"Greedy damn babyboomers! It's all about them!"

Yet our outrage over this new law stems from its negative effect on our own careers.

Age sixty will cost me well over six figures, but why go around writing FU letters to people I don't know?

BTW, Did you actually write that letter?

 

[Juniority]

Age sixty will cost me well over six figures, but why go around writing FU letters to people I don't know?

That's the point you're missing in this thread, LJDRVR. If you knew Paul Emens (in other words, if you worked at Southwest Airlines) you'd understand that he deserves a bunch of F-You letters.

It's just an example of how small, petty, egotistical, and self centered the man is that he can't absorb any of the backlash his greed has generated. So he latches onto the fact that the FO who wrote the letter used the F-word in it and threatens him with his cheif pilot (also a baby-boomer).

 

[BoilerUP]

Ya know UndauntedFlyer, one would think a proper definition of "professionalism" would include having enough grace and humility to accept your victory without CONSTANTLY bringing it up to those who opposed you.

Once again, a DPE acting this way is disappointing, at very best.