Delta Training

[Linedriver]

Anyone out there that can comment on the training at Delta?

I understand the two weeks at indoc. is a pleasurable experience - what about equipment training? I understand they give you the books, manuals and cd's. Do they give you direction on the best approach for preparing for classs or just give you the books and tell you to be ready when you start?

 

[Pat Fabin]

So have you been hired and are looking for some advice? A little more info from you would probably result in a more detailed answer from the rest of the peanut gallery.

 

[Linedriver]

My class date is Jan 21st and I'm looking for some advice.

What's the best way to skin this thing?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Easiest training experience I've ever had. They tell you in detail what you need to know ("learning objectives,") and what you do not need to know. There is no airplane-building here. There is a lot of self-study using systems CD's and even a practice Systems Validation test. You do need to know the limitations and memory items verbatim since the "oral" is on a computer. The program is AQP and there is plenty of FTD and sim time.

Do not sweat it.

-- relatively new peanut.

 

[MD11Drvr]

Easiest training experience I've ever had. They tell you in detail what you need to know ("learning objectives,") and what you do not need to know. There is no airplane-building here. There is a lot of self-study using systems CD's and even a practice Systems Validation test. You do need to know the limitations and memory items verbatim since the "oral" is on a computer. The program is AQP and there is plenty of FTD and sim time.

Do not sweat it.

-- relatively new peanut.

So Goggles are you syaing it was a little bit easier than your previous employer?

 

[GogglesPisano]

So Goggles are you syaing it was a little bit easier than your previous employer?

Most certainly.

 

[Linedriver]

Easiest training experience I've ever had. They tell you in detail what you need to know ("learning objectives,") and what you do not need to know. There is no airplane-building here. There is a lot of self-study using systems CD's and even a practice Systems Validation test. You do need to know the limitations and memory items verbatim since the "oral" is on a computer. The program is AQP and there is plenty of FTD and sim time.

Do not sweat it.

-- relatively new peanut.

AQP?

How much time did you dedicate to the home study and how long did you have to complete it?

 

[GogglesPisano]

AQP?

How much time did you dedicate to the home study and how long did you have to complete it?

There is usually a break between Indoc and aircraft-specific training which can vary from a weekend to 6 weeks. It depends on seniority within your category. The senior guy in my class started FMS training the week following Indoc and took his Systems Val shortly thereafter, which is a lot to digest. Two weeks off is more than enough to prepare. The systems val, I believe, is after a few FMS modules and several FTD's, which gives you a chance to push buttons and make noises to gel your systems knowledge.

Believe me, they know what they're doing here.

 

[Linedriver]

That's good news - thanks for the heads up!

 

[ASA_DFW]

You are given a hotel for two weeks (Comfort Inn). Then you are on your own for the remainder of training. I suggest that you drive your car for the sim portion. Virginia Ave can get old, very fast. You can look for places to live at the training center or online. The second Monday of indoc is when you and your wife or husband will go the Pecan for a formal dinner with all of the bosses.

You will find what aircraft and base within 3 days of starting class. You are given all of your required books the first week. Your oral exam is on a computer. Study the learning objectives and you will be fine. All of the instructors are laid back and will help you out with everything.

Just remember Delta has a lot of flying techniques, nothing is set in stone. That was the hardest thing for me to remember. At ASA we had to be at a certain speed and config at certain points.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Congrats on getting hired.

 

[bmxandjets]

how many days a month is reserve for a new guy?

 

[ASA_DFW]

Some months I have worked 9 days. In December I worked 14 days. Most of the trips have been a turn or two. Some have been one leg, overnight, and one leg back. If you live in base life is great.

 

[jrcpilot]

You are given a hotel for two weeks (Comfort Inn). Then you are on your own for the remainder of training. I suggest that you drive your car for the sim portion. Virginia Ave can get old, very fast. You can look for places to live at the training center or online. The second Monday of indoc is when you and your wife or husband will go the Pecan for a formal dinner with all of the bosses.

You will find what aircraft and base within 3 days of starting class. You are given all of your required books the first week. Your oral exam is on a computer. Study the learning objectives and you will be fine. All of the instructors are laid back and will help you out with everything.

Just remember Delta has a lot of flying techniques, nothing is set in stone. That was the hardest thing for me to remember. At ASA we had to be at a certain speed and config at certain points.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Congrats on getting hired.

I will reaffirm ASA_DFW's comments. I start tomorrow but I am an odd duck. I used to be an INDOC instructor here at Delta. Instructors are great. There is still quite a bit of experience in the school house even with the mass exodus in the past few years. AQP is Advanced Qualification Program its basically a train to proficiency program. Its a bit different from a standard 121 training program. Study regularly throughout training and you will be fine. Good Luck and Hopefully if they are still Throwing the Party at B-52's for the incoming class we will be throwing your bash for you!! Hey ASA_DFW is that still going on? I have not asked Brian about it.

 

[Linedriver]

Anyone with an idea of how the aircraft assignments will be broken down? Is anyone going to SLC? How is the reserve schedule for a newby NOT living at a base?

 

[ASA_DFW]

B-52's had been closed for awhile. The owners opened up a new bar up the street next to McDonald's, the Irish Bread Pub. It is sort of like B-52's just a lot cleaner. The new-hire parties were stopped. Don't know why. Maybe you can start them up again. The first Delta FA class starts tomorrow (mostly Mandarin speakers).

Since you were former Delta, you should be #1 in your class regardless of your social security number. Good luck and congrats.

 

[flyboy006]

I think and dont quote me cause i do not remember but I walked into the new hire class today and i think there may have been a slot or 2 to SLC. I know there were a few to LAX and the rest to NYC

 

[BigShow]

I am also in the Jan 21 class. See ya there.

 

[jrcpilot]

B-52's had been closed for awhile. The owners opened up a new bar up the street next to McDonald's, the Irish Bread Pub. It is sort of like B-52's just a lot cleaner. The new-hire parties were stopped. Don't know why. Maybe you can start them up again. The first Delta FA class starts tomorrow (mostly Mandarin speakers).

Since you were former Delta, you should be #1 in your class regardless of your social security number. Good luck and congrats.

Unfortunately that policy of former Delta only applies if you are an inactive employee coming back from leave OR a Company transfer. I.E. the girl in the 1st class last year who was a flight attendant and also a Pilot at ASA I think it was. Don't ask me how she was able to pull it off but she did. I think she was a very senior F/A. I will have to see about starting the Party thing up again. That was a blast and needs to be re-instated. I will have to talk to Brian about it and see if he minds me trying to kick start that again. Will see ya around.

 

[jrcpilot]

I think and dont quote me cause i do not remember but I walked into the new hire class today and i think there may have been a slot or 2 to SLC. I know there were a few to LAX and the rest to NYC

Here was the break down for class 01-08

13 JFK B767ER
11 NYC MD88
3 QNY MD88
3 LAX B73N
3 SLC MD88/90
1 NYC B73N


Every class is different as slots are filled by people already in the pipeline to fill slots so don't expect this to be a indication of future offerings for future classes

 

[Meiguy]

Here was the break down for class 01-08

13 JFK B767ER
11 NYC MD88
3 QNY MD88
3 LAX B73N
3 SLC MD88/90
1 NYC B73N


Every class is different as slots are filled by people already in the pipeline to fill slots so don't expect this to be a indication of future offerings for future classes

What does the 3 QNY MD88 mean. Or how is that different than the 11 other ones.

 

[avrodriver]

What does the 3 QNY MD88 mean. Or how is that different than the 11 other ones.

QNY is the shuttle code. I think that was a misprint. There was a total of 11 MD-88 (QNY/NYC). You do both the shuttle and whatever other NYC MD-88 flying is out there. Mostly FL trips out of LGA/JFK and a few mainline trips mixed into CVG and ATL.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

That woman in the first class was a first officer at ASA. She was a FA at DAL that was on five year leave. She came back as a FA at DAL one day before class, and ergo she was a company transfer. Simple as that.

 

[jrcpilot]

QNY is the shuttle code. I think that was a misprint. There was a total of 11 MD-88 (QNY/NYC). You do both the shuttle and whatever other NYC MD-88 flying is out there. Mostly FL trips out of LGA/JFK and a few mainline trips mixed into CVG and ATL.

You are correct that was a misprint. I should have put it QNY/NYC for shuttle and NYC. Shuttle is primarily shuttle but can do some other flying. Not normal but does happen. Sorry for the misprint. Thanks for the correction.

 

[jrcpilot]

That woman in the first class was a first officer at ASA. She was a FA at DAL that was on five year leave. She came back as a FA at DAL one day before class, and ergo she was a company transfer. Simple as that.

That's awesome. I wish I would have been able to take the longer leave. I didn't have that opportunity in Flight Ops. She hit a grand slam there thats for sure.

 

[bmxandjets]

what's the NYC 767ER new guys work schedule like? how many days scheduled for reserve, and how many of those days are you actually working, on average? thanks in advance.