CS growth?

[Flyby1206]

Anyone have info on new a/c deliveries for 2008 for CS? APC says they are hiring 8-12/mo in anticipation of deliveries, how long will this continue?

 

[NJA bound]

I would at least double those hiring numbers, lots of their pilots have class dates at NJA and more are jumping ship I hear.

 

[theskyking]

I'm at Netjets, and I get tired of all the inappropriate Netjets related posts. I can imagine how old it gets for others. Let's let this thread get back to those involved, CS.

 

[blueridge71]

There will be very little net growth over the next year. Bravos and CJ1s are being sold and new deliveries will replace them. Attrition has been higher than planned already, so I would imagine that most hiring will be to offset that.

 

[Guitar Guy]

There will be very little net growth over the next year. Bravos and CJ1s are being sold and new deliveries will replace them. Attrition has been higher than planned already, so I would imagine that most hiring will be to offset that.

Has the attrition been mostly from the right seat or are a number of captains leaving, too?

 

[bailout]

There will be very little net growth over the next year. Bravos and CJ1s are being sold and new deliveries will replace them. Attrition has been higher than planned already, so I would imagine that most hiring will be to offset that.

They are planning to hire @ 75 pilots or so next year, not including attrition.

 

[blueridge71]

I know of quite a few captains who took recall at the majors. As far as specific numbers, no idea.

 

[Sparse]

I know of quite a few captains who took recall at the majors. As far as specific numbers, no idea.

I heard net aircraft growth of 5. I also heard a total of 15 deliveries, evenly distributed among CJ3,XLS, and Sovereign. There are 3 CJ3s left to be sold and the rest of the sales to be among the bravos, which are not selling well.

But like everything else on this message board, this is probably total bs and should be used for entertainment value only.

 

[SKYLAWYER]

I heard net aircraft growth of 5. I also heard a total of 15 deliveries, evenly distributed among CJ3,XLS, and Sovereign. There are 3 CJ3s left to be sold and the rest of the sales to be among the bravos, which are not selling well.

I think he means 3 CJ1's. No plans that I am aware of to sell CJ3's at this time.

 

[Sparse]

I think he means 3 CJ1's. No plans that I am aware of to sell CJ3's at this time.

You are correct. I did not proof read.

 

[sflax]

There will be a net loss of three planes. And the attrition, so far this year 0. Last few months about 6. Not that high. But I expect those numbers to jump up.

 

[Sparse]

There will be a net loss of three planes. And the attrition, so far this year 0. Last few months about 6. Not that high. But I expect those numbers to jump up.

From the FAA web site, reserved N numbers, state of Kansas

626CS,631CS,632CS,633CS,634CS. = 5 CE680

431CS,432CS,433CS,434CS,436CS,437CS = 6 CE525B

576CS,578CS,579CS,580CS,581CS. = 5 CE560XL.

The XLs are all close serial numbers so my guess is they will be the XLS+ and will come late next year.

WHo knows how many of these will actually be delivered and how many aircraft will actually be sold. But if 15 aircraft are delivered then they will have to sell 18 aircraft to arrive at a negative 3 net fleet adjustment.

One thing that I have learned in avaition is that nothing is certain and then that is not even certain.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

In response to BlueRidge71:

"I don't have any ideas. I ask Dick if I need any." G.W. Bush (well, not really a quote, but you get the idea).

cliff
CID
PS-Hillary will win, thanks to the Republican Leadership's decision to pick GW Bush for prez.
I would prefer Obama or Ron Paul.

 

[johnsonrod]

When do the XLS+ aircraft start to arrive at CS? Will pilots be cross-trained on that aircraft with the other XLSs or will that fleet have separate pilots?

How many XLS+ aircraft are expected in 2008 and will those be net additions or just replacing older XLs?

 

[Sparse]

According to a Cessna engineer that gave me a tour of the factory, the XLS line becomes the XLS+ line at some point later this year. I heard fourth quater. As far as being crossed trained, I believe it will be a seperate fleet. The CJ3 is operated as a seperate fleet from the CJ1 because of the avionics.

 

[blueridge71]

I recently heard from a reliable source that the net growth will be 5, evenly distributed among Sovereign, XL, and CJ3 (assuming the Bravos sell as planned).

PS-Hillary will win, thanks to the Republican Leadership's decision to pick GW Bush for prez.
I would prefer Obama or Ron Paul.

Still think so after Iowa?

I am leaning toward Huckabee or Thompson. Thompson made a colossal mistake by not getting in earlier and it remains to be seen whether he can overcome it.