DELTA fact or fiction.

[obadie]

Delta to furlough 400 pilots?
Sent a new hire class home?
Parking MD 90s? How many?
Getting rid of 25 RJ's (Comair's)?

Anyone know the answers.

 

[contrail67]

Are you going to tell us where YOU heard this or are you just starting a negative thread?

 

[obadie]

One of my buddies, just trying to find out if there was any truth to his story.

 

[Heavy Set]

My neighbor here in Boca (a 7ER FO) just said that was not true. No mention of that on his company website, and the only news was that Delta was going to name one of their new 777LRs "the Spirit of Delta" like the 767-200 they retired. The Comair parking part may be correct, and I think I read a post from the General that said they were adding MD90s next year?

 

[iaflyer]

Delta to furlough 400 pilots?
Sent a new hire class home?
Parking MD 90s? How many?
Getting rid of 25 RJ's (Comair's)?

Anyone know the answers.

I might be able to answer three of those:

No, they haven't sent a new hire class home. A friend is in the Dec 3rd class and I'm in the Jan 7th class - he would of told me if there was people being sent home, and two, I just got an email last night from the new hire coordinator welcoming my class.

Parking 25 RJs - yes, that is one of their plans for the coming year. RJs are the most expensive airplanes to operate per seat mile in their system I believe. They've said this for several weeks.

MD-90s - what they are trying to do is get MORE MD-88/90s on top of all the other airplanes they have on order.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No going to layoff any time soon. Hiring 625-1000 in 08.
That is until the mergers are announced.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

That is until the mergers are announced.

DOH!!!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Delta to furlough 400 pilots?
Sent a new hire class home?
Parking MD 90s? How many?
Getting rid of 25 RJ's (Comair's)?

Anyone know the answers.

1. absolutely not.... hiring (as right now) 630-650 next year.

2. no. no no no.

3. Actually looking at getting 15-20 more.... although that is on and off the bubble.

4. yes. good riddance. (there's wayyy too many RJ's in the delta system)

 

[~~~^~~~]

Not true - but heard ASA's new base is going to be in Kotoka, Ghana. Delta's Africa operations are doing so well that they think a feed arrangement would allow the use of 777's on those routes instead of the 767.

The customers who have not flown before are excited at the prospects of jet service and the lack of US FAA supervision allows the carriage of livestock in the overhead bins.

Leonard is approved to administer Yellow Fever shots.

 

[tbkane]

Yeah but the only problem is you can't get anything in the overhead bins on ASA....

 

[flywithruss]

Of the RJs that are departing in '08, 15 are Chautauqua 135s. It was agreed to remove the short busses from service when the CHQ/DL contract was reaffirmed in bankruptcy.

 

[General Lee]

No going to layoff any time soon. Hiring 625-1000 in 08.
That is until the mergers are announced.

Could there be mergers? Maybe. But, the main reason we used to have mergers was to reduce capacity so you could raise fares. Today, there are plenty of airlines waiting to fill in the capacity gap, like Jetblue or Virgin America. So, unless there is a very real need to merge, (not the reasons of Gordon Bafoon or other Hedge fund cronies) there may not be any. Even Mike Boyd questions the need for mergers. We'll see I guess.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I agree with that. But when does anything in this industry make sense.

 

[thor2j]

Strictly rumors according to my buddys at Delta, however they hear that hiring will slow down drastically with the age 65 for the future.

 

[FDJ2]

Strictly rumors according to my buddys at Delta, however they hear that hiring will slow down drastically with the age 65 for the future.

Only 60 retirements scheduled in 2008, 66 in 2009. DAL hiring is not due to retirements.

 

[phishn@daves]

Only 60 retirements scheduled in 2008, 66 in 2009. DAL hiring is not due to retirements.

Are those retirements from the 60 rule, or 65 rule?

 

[FlyinGuy]

Hellooooo....$90 - $100 oil....mergers on the horizon!!!

 

[FDJ2]

Are those retirements from the 60 rule, or 65 rule?

60. The point is, DAL is scheduled to hire far more than 60 pilots in 2008. The change in the law wont have a material effect on DAL hiring in the next few years.

 

[Truckdriver]

Strictly rumors according to my buddys at Delta, however they hear that hiring will slow down drastically with the age 65 for the future.

Your buddies aren't too smart then. Only 60 retirements scheduled under the age 60 rule and hiring projections of 650 to as high as 1000. Hiring right now is almost all due to international growth. The only thing that will significantly slow hiring at Delta will be a merger or a very large domestic slowdown due to high oil prices and a recession. Both of those are likely so hiring may slow, but it won't be because of the age 65 rule. They will have to hire less, but only about 60-100 less per year for the next 5 years due to retirments. Not a very big immediate hit at Delta like it is at some other airlines.

 

[PilotOnTheRise]

Your buddies aren't too smart then. Only 60 retirements scheduled under the age 60 rule and hiring projections of 650 to as high as 1000. Hiring right now is almost all due to international growth. The only thing that will significantly slow hiring at Delta will be a merger or a very large domestic slowdown due to high oil prices and a recession. Both of those are likely so hiring may slow, but it won't be because of the age 65 rule. They will have to hire less, but only about 60-100 less per year for the next 5 years due to retirments. Not a very big immediate hit at Delta like it is at some other airlines.

Out of curiosity, what effect will mergers have on hiring? Will it slow, but not stop hiring, or will it result in furloughs? I've seen a few comments, from people, anticipating massive furloughs in 2008-2009, due to mergers. I think something needs to be done, to raise fares, but if merging, thus mass furloughs, is the answer, that isn't the answer I'd be looking for.